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re: Nordstream destroyed overnight (seismic blasts, leaks, and Kremlin says Sabotage)

Posted on 9/27/22 at 9:40 am to
Posted by Spawn
Berlin
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Posted on 9/27/22 at 9:40 am to
At long last a thread that is well and truly....

Germans.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
56391 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 9:41 am to
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How do you think they are going to feel when 1000s of innocent Germans freeze to death this winter?

A little melodramatic?
Posted by Floating Change Up
Member since Dec 2013
13039 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 9:46 am to
This is becoming Clancy’s Red Storm Rising, but in reverse.
Posted by Schleynole
Member since Sep 2022
1555 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 9:47 am to
Joe always says the quiet part out loud. Remember they put together greatest electoral fraud campaign in history. He's so crazy he can say anything and nobody takes him serious. I mean he knows about roaches and kids jumping on his lap, he loves kids on his lap. The Easter bunny about made him have a heart attack.
Posted by YankeeBama
Milwaukee
Member since Sep 2017
4804 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 9:47 am to
quote:

A little melodramatic?


Maybe, maybe not. If Germany is prevented from firing up the coal plants (climate agenda) than they are screwed. IMHO this is the biggest event in the current war. This is how World Wars are started.
This post was edited on 9/27/22 at 9:48 am
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17776 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 9:49 am to
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How do you think they are going to feel when 1000s of innocent Germans freeze to death this winter?


Impossible. I was told by MSM that Donald Trump made a fool out of himself in front of the UN warning Germany of gas shortages.
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9956 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 9:52 am to
Biden said back in Feb he would take out Nordstream 2 if Russia invaded. I guess he wasn’t lying.

LINK -YouTube
This post was edited on 9/27/22 at 9:54 am
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 9/27/22 at 9:52 am to
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How do you think they are going to feel when 1000s of innocent Germans freeze to death this winter?


At last checking, the Russians are under no obligation to supply gas in NS or NS2.

Also the EU is attempting to bring LNG in from other countries such as Qatar to offset the Russian gas shortage.
Posted by YankeeBama
Milwaukee
Member since Sep 2017
4804 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 9:54 am to
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At last checking, the Russians are under no obligation to supply gas in NS or NS2.


Exactly. Why would they destroy the pipeline if they have full control of its distribution? It’s much more valuable as a bargaining chip.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
23179 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 9:56 am to
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How do you think they are going to feel when 1000s of innocent Germans freeze to death this winter?


Given that the WEF has proposed reducing world population to under 1 billion, I’m sure they will be happy about it
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:15 am to
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So was it the Russian’s plan all along to gain dependency and then destroy?


No, I think their plan all along was to control through dependency.

Winter is coming for Europe, putting 40% of your energy dependence in Russia comes with very sticky strings attached.
Posted by YankeeBama
Milwaukee
Member since Sep 2017
4804 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:18 am to
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No, I think their plan all along was to control through dependency. Winter is coming for Europe, putting 40% of your energy dependence in Russia comes with very sticky strings attached.



Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
25916 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:19 am to
Biden also called for a cold dark winter guess he was just getting ahead of his bullet points
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
97642 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:26 am to
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Exactly. Why would they destroy the pipeline if they have full control of its distribution? It’s much more valuable as a bargaining chip.


In a roundabout sort of way, I'm in the pipeline biz. My guess is that the pumping stations were taken "offline" merely as a threat going forward. If you rememeber, the Russians were already limiting capacity on purpose to send a message so this is just a continuation of it.

Russia knows they have the EU by the balls, Qatar's doubling of capacity won't come online until 2025 so there is the here and now that needs to be tended to.

FWIW I'm not a Russian apologist as I detest what they are doing, but I do understand the business aspect of it.
Posted by YankeeBama
Milwaukee
Member since Sep 2017
4804 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:30 am to
quote:

In a roundabout sort of way, I'm in the pipeline biz. My guess is that the pumping stations were taken "offline" merely as a threat going forward. If you rememeber, the Russians were already limiting capacity on purpose to send a message so this is just a continuation of it.



So you think the “detrimental damages” report is bogus? What you are saying makes complete sense, but why would they destroy it?
Posted by YankeeBama
Milwaukee
Member since Sep 2017
4804 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:33 am to
Posted by jp4lsu
Member since Sep 2016
6936 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:35 am to
It doesnt seem the bargaining chip for Russia hasnt done much so far. So i dont think the purpose was to remove the bargaining chip.

Globalist and likely USA blowing it up to keep Germany from pushing a peace deal with Ukraune, basically to keep Germany in line. Plus they will be weakened economically and will be blowing money on NG to keep the mass happy.

Now Russia may have destroyed it on purpose to inflict pain on EU for the winter. If Russia shutdown the NS2 intentionally and simply turned the spigot off, Russia would be blamed for the long deadly winter in GER. But if something happened to the NS2 by accident, you get the same affect but you can tell the world it wasnt intentional there was an accident or someone sabotaged it.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
102836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
47178 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:46 am to
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Why would the Seal Team cut off energy supply to Germany?



Biden said he was going to do exactly that.
Posted by biscuitsngravy
Tejas, north America
Member since Jan 2011
3928 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:46 am to
limit supply, drive up prices.

Bigger picture, Ruskya droning ukraine hard, calling up reserves, annexing regions, shutting off gas and blowing up nord 2 as well. two minute offense before winter.

apparently putin addressing both houses of russian congress friday to announce annexation, special operation over, war next phase. crazy times.
Posted by YankeeBama
Milwaukee
Member since Sep 2017
4804 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:53 am to
Massive leak


Earlier reported that there was noting in the pipeline
This post was edited on 9/27/22 at 10:54 am
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