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Posted on 9/27/22 at 12:14 pm to YankeeBama
Certainly. my point was there was already a large amount of nato naval assets in the general area of the pipeline.
*And China/ Russia by Alaska - are being followed, watched, and listened to by nato attack subs from the US, UK, and Australia.
*And China/ Russia by Alaska - are being followed, watched, and listened to by nato attack subs from the US, UK, and Australia.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 12:20 pm to ninthward
EU shills are thanking the US for the attack
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Posted on 9/27/22 at 12:34 pm to YankeeBama
the pipeline is more valuable to Russia operational, then they can use it as a bargaining chip
somebody wanted to remove the pipeline bargaining chip from the game, this does not help the Russians at all
the Russians could have cut off supply and kept the line intact. If they wanted to blow it up, they could have launched a pipeline pig with a bomb on it and blown it up pretty easily from the inside. This was damage from the outside of the line
somebody wanted to remove the pipeline bargaining chip from the game, this does not help the Russians at all
the Russians could have cut off supply and kept the line intact. If they wanted to blow it up, they could have launched a pipeline pig with a bomb on it and blown it up pretty easily from the inside. This was damage from the outside of the line
Posted on 9/27/22 at 12:34 pm to YankeeBama
Actually, as Winston well knew, it was only four years since Oceania had been at war with Eastasia and in alliance with Eurasia. But that was merely a piece of furtive knowledge which he happened to possess because his memory was not satisfactorily under control. Officially the change of partners had never happened. Oceania was at war with Eurasia: therefore Oceania had always been at war with Eurasia. The enemy of the moment always represented absolute evil, and it followed that any past or future agreement with him was impossible.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 12:41 pm to supatigah
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the pipeline is more valuable to Russia operational, then they can use it as a bargaining chip somebody wanted to remove the pipeline bargaining chip from the game, this does not help the Russians at all the Russians could have cut off supply and kept the line intact. If they wanted to blow it up, they could have launched a pipeline pig with a bomb on it and blown it up pretty easily from the inside. This was damage from the outside of the line
Totally agree
Posted on 9/27/22 at 12:48 pm to YankeeBama
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. If Germany is prevented from firing up the coal plants (climate agenda)
Who is preventing them?
I guess maybe timing otherwise they know the solution to their problem
Posted on 9/27/22 at 12:49 pm to thelawnwranglers
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I guess maybe timing otherwise they know the solution to their problem
Things worked out well the last time their coal was witheld through the winter.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 12:53 pm to YankeeBama
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They control the supply. They aren’t under any obligation to supply. Why would they blast off both arms of the pipeline at three points? Makes zero sense. This was not Russia.
He’s a dummy, incapable of critical thought
Posted on 9/27/22 at 1:03 pm to Jack Carter
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He’s a dummy, incapable of critical thought
It’s amazing. Just went to the OT thread and there are a few that believe Russia did this to themselves.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 1:22 pm to Nado Jenkins83
quote:“Trump gave Putin the idea to freeze western Europe!!!!”
Somehow they will blame don
Posted on 9/27/22 at 1:23 pm to White Bear
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“Trump gave Putin the idea to freeze western Europe!!!!”
And they handed him their leash and begged Putin to take them for a walk.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 1:32 pm to YankeeBama
A bit of logic as posted elsewhere by TBoy ----
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"They can just turn it off, so why would they destroy it?"
To turn it off make Russia the belligerent party that Europe must rally against. It provides meat to the opposition against Russia in Europe.
To sabotage it and blame the US makes the US the belligerent party and possibly drives a wedge between western partners. This also scores domestic points in Russia to distract from the disaster that is the war and feeds the narrative that Russia is being attacked by the US. There is no downside for Russia here.
Who benefits from each scenario?
Ukraine benefits from Russia turning it off.
Russia benefits from sabotage blamed on the US.
The US does not benefit under either scenario.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 1:35 pm to ImaObserver
quote:Only if one believes that NATO or other allies would turn against us for it. I don't.
Russia benefits from sabotage blamed on the US.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 2:59 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
Those German fools thought they were so smart. The foolishness and error of their smug arrogance should be rubbed in their face every day.
If we have ad revenue to spend in Europe, we should run this just for shits and grins.
If we have ad revenue to spend in Europe, we should run this just for shits and grins.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 3:02 pm to YankeeBama
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It was probably biden.
He did threaten this
Can you imagine being a SEAL and having to do something like that? You would know it was wrong. It could cause nuclear war. At the least, misery. Do you consider it a bridge too far and refuse?
I think you should. Something like that should be considered an illegal order.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 3:03 pm to YankeeBama
Posted on 9/27/22 at 3:28 pm to GhostOfFreedom
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Can you imagine being a SEAL and having to do something like that? You would know it was wrong. It could cause nuclear war. At the least, misery. Do you consider it a bridge too far and refuse? I think you should. Something like that should be considered an illegal order.
I had the same thoughts, but it was probably posed to them as battling the Russians. Hindsight will play out
Posted on 9/27/22 at 4:34 pm to YankeeBama
How do the Russians have such poor cigarette discipline that a pipeline explodes under water?
Posted on 9/27/22 at 4:36 pm to YankeeBama
my guess is this is about china continuing to get cheap oil from russia
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