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re: New Trump accounts $1M by age 55 with $1K at birth match and $50 / month

Posted on 7/8/26 at 11:14 am to
Posted by wookalar1013
up ta camp
Member since Jun 2017
2483 posts
Posted on 7/8/26 at 11:14 am to
Zero chance this gets abused by shithead parents and/or the government
And by zero I mean 100%
Posted by CA Jones
Member since Jan 2021
335 posts
Posted on 7/8/26 at 11:18 am to
Return on The S&P Index. Historically, between 12 % and 14 % annually.
There’s a 2 % dividend that pushes it closer to 14 %
If it’s 12 % the money doubles every 6 years. It’s 14 % the money doubles every 5 years. In either case, $1 thousand dollars becomes more than A $ million dollars in 65 years. The power of compound interest is a very important force. It’s what creates wealth.
BTW;
Libs hate people taking control of their own lives,
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
69345 posts
Posted on 7/8/26 at 11:18 am to
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How does 600 dollars a year (12 times 50) work out to one million in that amount of time?

It's so unsurprising that your ignorance is showing through here. Instead of taking two seconds to google it.
Posted by Beessnax
Member since Nov 2015
11321 posts
Posted on 7/8/26 at 11:22 am to
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How does 600 dollars a year (12 times 50) work out to one million in that amount of time


Because it's not put in a sock in your mother's underwear drawer where your life savings is
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
52623 posts
Posted on 7/8/26 at 11:25 am to
why do these babies need federal handouts?

socialism is bad!
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
32374 posts
Posted on 7/8/26 at 11:47 am to
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Equity Investments can out-pace inflation. In fact, some inflation can help equity prices. I can’t believe that anyone would not like this program.


I never said anything about not liking the program. I said $1M sounds like a big number but 65 years from now it’ll be $100k because we keep fricking printing money to cover our wars and corruption.
Posted by Tmo Sabe
GA
Member since Mar 2022
1014 posts
Posted on 7/8/26 at 11:48 am to
Any dummy can diversify ETFs on the fidelity app and do much better
Posted by lsuconnman
Baton rouge
Member since Feb 2007
5436 posts
Posted on 7/8/26 at 11:54 am to
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600 dollars a year times 20 years is 12,000. Not bad but not a huge amount either. Buys a ratty used car.


Like all the personal finance threads, it conflates multiples variables and operates in a vacuum to reflect a desired result.

The advertised numbers are great. But, if you step back and think about it for a just a moment. Anyone who has parents willing to contribute $600/yr…for 55yrs will be financially fine regardless of the addition of a Trump account.

Or, the argument anyone can find $600/yr to puts aside for their child. That’s likely true, but it’s not much help if it isn’t in addition to maxing out the 529 first, just to get them through college without a six figure debt.

At the end of the day, this will have the same outcome as a 401k. It will greatly benefit anyone that uses it…wont contribute their own funds, and will raid it for any contributions made by others as soon as allowed.



Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
24299 posts
Posted on 7/8/26 at 11:57 am to
While true, people with a $1M equity account are far less likely to sign up for socialism.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
6707 posts
Posted on 7/8/26 at 12:02 pm to
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How does 600 dollars a year (12 times 50) work out to one million in that amount of time?

Due to what Einstein said was the greatest single force in the universe. You should learn about it. It is called "compounding interest".
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
11572 posts
Posted on 7/8/26 at 12:19 pm to
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It's socialism regardless of who proposes it.


With this logic, giving tax breaks for children is socialism. You wouldn't ever engage in such policies, right?

Taking a double deduction for your unemployed wife would also be socialism.

Why should single people without kids have to pay more? That's just a handout to married families, aka socialism.

When you use retarded logic, everything you don't like becomes socialism. And what you don't claim as socialism, you can just write off as populism. Isn't that fun?

Or you can just look at what is good for the country as a whole instead of demanding everything follow your own ideology that failed to prevent the problems to begin with. It's amazing how conservatives constantly bitch about problems, but then also bitch when any solution is offered, especially when that solution is something that has never been tried.

People are complaining about $1000, most of which was personal donations, that turns into a million with personal investments while also whining about SS being a disaster.

Conservatives really think there is only one way to fix a problem and when the corrupt congress refuses to implement that fix, they just sit on their asses whining and conserving the status quo.

We will never get out of the failed system we have, because conservatives will fight tooth and nail to preserve the system they always complain about.

We will never escape taxes and social security because doing so would require a temporary period of mild discomfort and doesn't fully align with the chosen political ideology. And conservatives just can't handle that.
Posted by mikesliveisacheater
Member since Nov 2009
1546 posts
Posted on 7/8/26 at 12:19 pm to
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Was trying to read about this the other day. I have a custodial account for my son who is 7. Is there any difference other then making it simpler for people to invest for their kids?


It has the tax free growth advantage of a traditional IRA and custody of the account transfers to the kid at age 18. It's a nice way to start them a retirement account without having to wait until they are 16 and have some income of their own.

The real benefit would be if you helped them pay the taxes after 18 to do a conversion into a Roth IRA and let all of it compound until they are 60 and have no taxes or penalties at withdraw.

If you did the $5k a year max contribution, converted it into a Roth as soon as allowed and let it compound until they are 60. They would be setup nicely for retirement even if they never make a contribution themself.
Posted by LSUnKaty
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2008
4955 posts
Posted on 7/8/26 at 1:08 pm to
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Which will have the buying power of $100k now thanks to the government printing money like a drunken whore.
This.

Plus the fact that the money goes in after tax but is taxed again as income when taken out.

Not a good deal. Didn't do the math, but it's probably far better to just invest $10/week in a ETF in a regular brokerage account.
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
17492 posts
Posted on 7/8/26 at 1:11 pm to
I have no idea what your point is. The fact is, you are not doing yourself any favors saving 600 dollars a year when you are 18 years old.
Posted by Mushroom1968
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2023
6682 posts
Posted on 7/8/26 at 1:26 pm to
Eurocat

Geez dude, yikes!!
Posted by lsuconnman
Baton rouge
Member since Feb 2007
5436 posts
Posted on 7/8/26 at 1:28 pm to
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I have no idea what your point is. The fact is, you are not doing yourself any favors saving 600 dollars a year when you are 18 years old.


That was supposed to be my point, I just used a lot more sentences.
Posted by Mushroom1968
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2023
6682 posts
Posted on 7/8/26 at 1:32 pm to
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At the end of the day, this will have the same outcome as a 401k. It will greatly benefit anyone that uses it…wont contribute their own funds, and will raid it for any contributions made by others as soon as allowed.


I think the key here though is starting out with a “free” $1,000. If on average your portfolio doubles say every 6 years without contributing more, you can be sitting on a decent chunk by the time you hit 18. Most of us at 18 are starting at zero.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
17793 posts
Posted on 7/8/26 at 2:07 pm to
I looked into a Trump account, but my son was born before the cutoff and there is no State match in Louisiana. So we decided that we're better off contributing to a LA START 529 account.

Yes, it's more limited in how it's spent. But graduating college with zero debt will go a long way to his future success.

Plus those accounts are eligible for Roth IRA conversions after 15 years, so that would provide some flexibility on how it's spent.
Posted by CA Jones
Member since Jan 2021
335 posts
Posted on 7/8/26 at 2:28 pm to
One million sounds like a big number.

You might be right. However, I wouldn’t depend strictly on Social Security for my retirement. We should never ignore the power of compound interest.
Posted by Victor R Franko
Member since Dec 2021
4050 posts
Posted on 7/8/26 at 2:32 pm to
You sound like a true smart investor.
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