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re: new poll: trump voters more likely to trust trump than their friends, family and pastor
Posted on 8/20/23 at 1:09 pm to Jjdoc
Posted on 8/20/23 at 1:09 pm to Jjdoc
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You might want to get use to a Conservative base that is no longer willing to work with the GOPE.
Trump is not conservative in the least and neither are you.
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Posted on 8/20/23 at 1:11 pm to BuckyCheese
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Trump is not conservative in the least and neither are you.
Whatever you say big cheese
Posted on 8/20/23 at 1:11 pm to Message Board User
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My friends, this is how you cult.
"I don't have siblings, but if I did, I'd trust Trump more than them."
JFC
I'm glad you've had a large, stable family. I have ONE non-direct relative, an adopted aunt. She's a communist who turned her two kids gay. If the civil war starts, I'll happily rat her out to the local right wing militia.
Posted on 8/20/23 at 1:12 pm to BuckyCheese
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Trump is not conservative in the least and neither are you.
And the Trump base isn't enough to win a general election.
And we know that independents hate his guts and he'll have no money anyway for any kind of GOTV effort.
Posted on 8/20/23 at 1:13 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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There should never be loyalty to any politician. Thats the issue.
In a vaccuum, that's true. But note the poll said "trust" vs. "loyalty." Those two words mean very different things to most people.
Posted on 8/20/23 at 1:14 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Makes sense, all they watch is Fox News and are probably too old to have a social life
Posted on 8/20/23 at 1:15 pm to thebigmuffaletta
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Try to convince one of your democrat friends that Joe Biden was involved in his son’s shady business dealings and report back on if they trust what you’re telling them or what Joe Biden is telling them.
Strong whataoutism argument. Best way to deflect from Cult-45 criticism.
I’m not a Biden fan but please show me some formal charges. Tell me if MTG or Jordan has actual evidence where are the impeachment papers? Is this something we are supposed to accept as proven without evidence? I’m sure the reply will be an Alex Jones podcast link.
Posted on 8/20/23 at 1:19 pm to SelaTiger
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I can see religious leaders and media for sure, but family?
Depends on who your family is, I suppose.
If you're the lone conservative in a family of liberal NPC drones and what with how divided we have all become, why would you trust the people who get their "news" from Reddit, DU, XiNN, MSDNC, ABXi, XiBS, NBXi, Facebook, Twatter, TikTok and NPR?
I have liberal family members and I can 100% factually report that they absolutely believe everything that KJP and the White House tell them over anything that we conservatives in the family try to tell them. When they engage in debate and you prove their claims to be demonstrably false and then show them the entire truth, they literally go straight into attack mode calling all of their own supposedly beloved family members racists, fascists and Nazis.
Both sides are very divided, even amongst family members. The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb. We have chosen our covenants on both sides, and similar polls would easily show that staunch liberals believe what Biden tells them over what their kin tells them. Fact.
Posted on 8/20/23 at 1:22 pm to Mephistopheles
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Not the same thing.
It’s exactly the same thing. 90% of democrats don’t believe that Joe Biden has done anything wrong with regards to his son’s business dealings. Even if you brought them all of the facts, 90% of democrats would still take Joe Biden’s word over yours.
That is the very definition of cult behavior.
Posted on 8/20/23 at 1:25 pm to TrueTiger
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And someone convinced Ron that he could peel people away from Trump.
That's a fools errand.
Not going to happen.
It already happened.
Look at the number of Desantis supporters claiming they'll sit out the election if Trump is the nominee. Look at the amount of Trump supporters saying the same if anyone other than Trump is the nominee.
...and sadly it's mostly all a divisive psyop by the establishment and probably 60% of "conservative" voters took the bait and got reeled in. It's easier to be wrong and go down in a fighting loss, than it is to admit you were wrong. The conservative base is fractured and will lose again in '24 because of said fracture.
Posted on 8/20/23 at 1:28 pm to Motownsix
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please show me some formal charges.
So the only way you’ll believe that Biden has committed crimes is if his own DOJ indicts him for crimes, which you well know they aren’t going to do?
This sounds like cult thinking to me.
Posted on 8/20/23 at 1:29 pm to TigerAxeOK
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The conservative base is fractured and will lose again in '24 because of said fracture.
No, the reason the GOP will lose in 2024 will be if Trump is the nominee.
2018, 2020, and 2022 out front should have told ya.
Posted on 8/20/23 at 1:29 pm to TigerAxeOK
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Look at the number of Desantis supporters claiming they'll sit out the election if Trump is the nominee
Exactly! And the same people who are claiming Muh cult45 are demanding loyalty pledges to DeSantis if he’s the nominee.
Posted on 8/20/23 at 1:33 pm to thebigmuffaletta
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Exactly! And the same people who are claiming Muh cult45 are demanding loyalty pledges to DeSantis if he’s the nominee.
Remind me which one of Desantis and Trump signed the loyalty pledge.
Posted on 8/20/23 at 1:34 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Not a cult
Posted on 8/20/23 at 1:38 pm to TigerAxeOK
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Look at the amount of Trump supporters saying the same if anyone other than Trump is the nominee.
I'm willing to bet it's a factor of 10X, that there are at least 10 times the Trump supporters that wouldn't turn out for RDS than there are DeSantis voters that wouldn't turn out for DT.
DeSantis does not engender the level of emotions Trump does, and "MAGA" is a lot more emotion than it is principles/ideas.
Posted on 8/20/23 at 1:38 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
This poll is retarded. Who in the frick would even put these questions together except someone with an agenda? Who would post them on TD? The same frickin' type of person.
Posted on 8/20/23 at 2:14 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
That’s saddening. There’s no positive way to spin those results.
This post was edited on 8/20/23 at 4:38 pm
Posted on 8/20/23 at 2:43 pm to Message Board User
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Remind me which one of Desantis and Trump signed the loyalty pledge.
That’s the point, Ronbots here are screaming for Trump to sign a loyalty pledge when they’ve already said they won’t vote for Trump if he’s the nominee.
Personally, IDGAF about loyalty pledges.
Posted on 8/20/23 at 2:47 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Try to convince your Lincoln Project family that you aren't a fig. We'll wait.
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