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re: New billionaire's tax plan aimed at the 0.0002%

Posted on 10/24/21 at 7:26 pm to
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55486 posts
Posted on 10/24/21 at 7:26 pm to
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24 men and a woman who inherited it from her husband Sam.

Julia and Alice are men? MacKenzie? Maybe MacKenzie.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55486 posts
Posted on 10/24/21 at 7:29 pm to
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You're the one claiming people in the .0002% are refusing to work

No he wasn’t. He was using the principle that the other poster agreed with and transferring it to the welfare recipients. It wasn’t very logical, but it wasn’t a claim that rich people don’t work.
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 10/24/21 at 7:43 pm to
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In my past I would normally be dead set against this as a matter of principle. But most of the people on this list are SJWs who asked for this.

So, if that's the way they want it, that's the way they should get it.



Exactly it should be 90% of everything over $1 billion.

Watch them squirm.

Watch them censor social media differently.
This post was edited on 10/24/21 at 7:44 pm
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22714 posts
Posted on 10/24/21 at 7:56 pm to
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But most of the people on this list are SJWs who asked for this.
No they didn’t. If they wanted to pay higher taxes, they can always cut the check for as much extra as they want to pay.

You're not this obtuse. The point being made is the SJW/Covid bullshite the middle class/upper-middle class has been assaulted by finds its political and financial roots with these assholes. And the overriding point is, "frick them, why shouldn't they have to live with the politics they bought/paid for?"
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
102675 posts
Posted on 10/24/21 at 8:05 pm to
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Yeah this looks appealing until it is expanded to include 401Ks and other investments for the common man…. No thanks…


Even this isn’t appealing. Taxing gains of value on stocks is stupid no matter how rich the person is.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22714 posts
Posted on 10/24/21 at 8:10 pm to
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Even this isn’t appealing. Taxing gains of value on stocks is stupid no matter how rich the person is.

There are solid arguments against a wealth tax, and in normal times I'd cheerlead the opposition - but a question for conservatives; how much energy do you want to put into a fight here in 2021 to make sure Mark Zuckerberg (invested $400 million in 2020 election frickery), Sergie Brin + Larry Page (google and YouTube leading the censorship movement), Bill Gates (vaccines), Jeff Bezos (WaPo), Jack Dorsey (Twitter) and George Soros (behind the crime wave) aren't treated unfairly by the taxman?
Posted by Wasting Time
Member since Oct 2021
310 posts
Posted on 10/24/21 at 8:15 pm to
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but a question for conservatives; how much energy do you want to put into a fight here in 2021 to make sure Mark Zuckerberg (invested $400 million in 2020 election frickery), Sergie Brin + Larry Page (google and YouTube leading the censorship movement), Bill Gates (vaccines), Jeff Bezos (WaPo), Jack Dorsey (Twitter) and George Soros (behind the crime wave) aren't treated unfairly by the taxman?
If I actually thought it would harm them, very little effort at all.

But, this will do zero harm to them. Every last person harmed by it will be down the food chain.
Posted by RebelExpress38
In your base, killin your dudes
Member since Apr 2012
14304 posts
Posted on 10/24/21 at 8:21 pm to
Remember, when income tax was first introduced it only applied to the super wealthy. Don’t fall for this trap
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5965 posts
Posted on 10/24/21 at 8:27 pm to
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There are solid arguments against a wealth tax, and in normal times I'd cheerlead the opposition - but a question for conservatives; how much energy do you want to put into a fight here in 2021 to make sure Mark Zuckerberg (invested $400 million in 2020 election frickery), Sergie Brin + Larry Page (google and YouTube leading the censorship movement), Bill Gates (vaccines), Jeff Bezos (WaPo), Jack Dorsey (Twitter) and George Soros (behind the crime wave) aren't treated unfairly by the taxman?


I agree. Buffett, Gates, and many other billionaire Dems have asked to be taxed more. If you are stupid enough to be ask for it, let it happen.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
38347 posts
Posted on 10/24/21 at 8:34 pm to
Kind of irrelevant to the thread but I was watching History Channel tonight and John D. Rockefeller was worth $660 billion in today's money prior to the Standard Oil break up.
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
21892 posts
Posted on 10/24/21 at 8:37 pm to
Sounds like a great way to make ex-pats out of our most successful.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22714 posts
Posted on 10/24/21 at 9:09 pm to
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If I actually thought it would harm them, very little effort at all.

But, this will do zero harm to them. Every last person harmed by it will be down the food chain.

How? I mean, surely there are ways. Maybe Pelosi taxes unrealized gains for people far down the economic food chain than billionaires, but let me ask you this - who would that harm politically? And wouldn't it capture the assholes mentioned above?

In earlier threads on this topic it was pointed out that while it may be a shot across the bow of the uber-wealthy (which I'm for), it also further empowers the gov't - and I think that's a fair point. But then, in my mind, the question becomes - who would you rather have spending $500 million to frick with the next election, Zuckerberg or Dem politicians?
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22714 posts
Posted on 10/24/21 at 9:11 pm to
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Sounds like a great way to make ex-pats out of our most successful.

Fine by me. I'm all for a changover of the "most successful" roster when the current one is littered with assholes promoting vaccine mandates, censorship, a wide open border, BLM/CRT, tranny-nation, and cronyism "like we've never seen it before".
Posted by Wasting Time
Member since Oct 2021
310 posts
Posted on 10/24/21 at 9:16 pm to
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How? I mean, surely there are ways. Maybe Pelosi taxes unrealized gains for people far down the economic food chain than billionaires, but let me ask you this - who would that harm politically? And wouldn't it capture the a-holes mentioned above?

When you try to frick the ultra rich, they are quite flexible. I don't say this to vilify them. They are simply going to behave as anyone rational in their shoes would.

Think of it like when liberal geniuses back under Clinton decided that super rich people should have to pay a luxury tax when they bought super expensive items like yachts.

Yacht sales actually went UP. Tax receipts went down. And the entire boating industry of Florida was destroyed never to be resurrected again.

Rich people simply bought Yachts elsewhere or, redirected that discretionary money to some other fanciful think the government wasn't chasing.

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In earlier threads on this topic it was pointed out that while it may be a shot across the bow of the uber-wealthy
It isn't. It's class envy theater.

Pass this law.........then look 3 years from now at Zuch's total tax burden. I'll bet my life it doesn't change at all.
Posted by vol-boy
Dixie
Member since Feb 2012
1382 posts
Posted on 10/24/21 at 9:20 pm to
Just confiscate 50% of their wealth and be done with it.
Posted by BurntOrangeMan
Dallas TX
Member since May 2021
5628 posts
Posted on 10/24/21 at 9:23 pm to
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Zuckerberg bought the election for the DNC.

It would be poetic justice if the ones he put in power come take his money.



Joe Kennedy essentially murdered two sons for doing the exact same thing with the syndicated crime bosses.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22714 posts
Posted on 10/24/21 at 9:29 pm to
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It isn't. It's class envy theater.

It might be for you. I have no way of knowing. But it certainly isn't for me or loads of other conservatives that could give a frick how much someone else has, but have plenty of fricks to give when someone starts locking us out of our businesses, schools, churches, starts cramming BLM/CRT down our throats, opens the door to 2-3 million illegals per year, etc., etc.
Posted by Wasting Time
Member since Oct 2021
310 posts
Posted on 10/24/21 at 10:14 pm to
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It might be for you. I have no way of knowing. But it certainly isn't for me or loads of other conservatives that could give a frick how much someone else has, but have plenty of fricks to give when someone starts locking us out of our businesses, schools, churches, starts cramming BLM/CRT down our throats, opens the door to 2-3 million illegals per year, etc., etc.


Don't get me wrong. I hate those MFers as much as you do and I hate everything you mentioned as much as you do.
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
24080 posts
Posted on 10/24/21 at 10:18 pm to
Everyone on the people on that list owns more than a handful of politicians.

Let them fight their own battles.
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
5116 posts
Posted on 10/24/21 at 10:22 pm to
Here is the sad reality the folks that support these kinds of tax the rich don't get.

In their minds, they believe the Government is going to tax all these billionaires, and then spread it out to their non-working asses. They truly believe this Government would seize wealth and redistribute it.

It's the Democratic way. Knowing you are too fricking lazy to work yourself into prosperity, so you hope and pray someone will steal it from someone else to give to you.

This post was edited on 10/24/21 at 10:23 pm
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