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re: New billionaire's tax plan aimed at the 0.0002%

Posted on 10/25/21 at 1:21 pm to
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 10/25/21 at 1:21 pm to
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You can't be serious?
It was your (apparent) claim
This post was edited on 10/25/21 at 1:23 pm
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 1:23 pm to
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It was your claim



You really don't understand how expenditures can increase your wealth? This isn't a troll?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63313 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 1:24 pm to
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You really don't understand how expenditures can increase your wealth?
In general, yes. But paying taxes is not equivalent to purchasing a productive asset. Literally the opposite.

I could go get thousands of dollars in $100s and light them on fire. I’d have spent a lot of money. Now tell me how my wealth increased from thst.

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This isn't a troll?
Kinda wondering the same thing.
This post was edited on 10/25/21 at 1:26 pm
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 1:25 pm to
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In general, yes.


I'm glad we agree, then. Not sure what you were laughing at.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63313 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 1:27 pm to
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I'm glad we agree, then
We do not. taxes are not a productive asset. As I edited and will repeat for you…

I could go get thousands of dollars in $100s and light them on fire. I’d have spent a lot of money. Now tell me how my wealth increased from thst?

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Not sure what you were laughing at.

Your lack of understanding is become less surprising with each post.
This post was edited on 10/25/21 at 1:28 pm
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 1:27 pm to
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We do not.


So you still need an explanation on how expenditures can increase your wealth?

If you haven't figured that out by now I don't think there's any helping you.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63313 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 1:30 pm to
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So you still need an explanation on how expenditures can increase your wealth?
You said “now do taxes”. Not any generic expenses. You still have not touched that. I don’t blame you.

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If you haven't figured that out by now I don't think there's any helping you.
Don’t need any
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
7178 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 1:35 pm to
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So you still need an explanation on how expenditures can increase your wealth?

If you haven't figured that out by now I don't think there's any helping you.



You are fighting for minutia, and clearly losing the point. Yes an expenditure can increase your wealth, but not all expenditures have the same effect.

Purchase a bulldozer to clear land for money or purchase a weedeater to trim the grass around the sign in front of your business. One generates additional revenue. One is just an expense. Tax is less productive than the weedeater.
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 1:54 pm to
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Yes an expenditure can increase your wealth


Then why would I need to explain that? Why would anyone who has even a basic understanding of what we're talking about here need anyone to explain that?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63313 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 1:57 pm to
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Then why would I need to explain that
quote:

K now do taxes.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39853 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 1:58 pm to
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New billionaire's tax plan aimed at the 0.0002%
Literally 0% chance of passing.
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 1:59 pm to
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K now do taxes.


and you got that wrong too.
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
32831 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 2:00 pm to
well yeah if it's between them and me, I want them to pay it and not me. I'm merely a thousandaire.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 2:03 pm to
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Then why would I need to explain that? Why would anyone who has even a basic understanding of what we're talking about here need anyone to explain that?




You're crawfishing pretty hard bud. If it was me, I'd go with the "you didn't build that" argument saying he's getting benefits from paying taxes such as roads and an educated populace. I still disagree, but it's better than pretending you didn't say something when it's literally typed out.
This post was edited on 10/25/21 at 2:04 pm
Posted by Hmanhunt
Member since Sep 2015
711 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 2:09 pm to
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Hmmm, 24 men and a woman who inherited it from her husband Sam.


Dad Sam but point still valid. Also the ex-Mrs. Bezos
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138873 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 2:18 pm to
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tax plan aimed at the 0.0002%
All they need is a crack in that door to kick the whole thing in.

The Feds need to interlope on the pending $68T Great Wealth Transfer from SG/Boomers => GenX/Millennials.
Make no mistake: THAT IS THE GOAL!

A $68T Honeypot is just too tempting to Uncle Sam. He's going to try to steal it.

The first objective is assessing where the honeypot wealth and unrealized Cap Gains actually lie. Then it's the ole Taxin' Two-Step.

Step One: Audit YOUR savings/wealth under auspices of supposedly targeting the 0.0000000000000000000000000002%, or whatever the f*ck they claim they are doing.

Step Two: Use the assessments of YOUR savings/wealth to target YOUR savings/wealth in future years.
This post was edited on 10/25/21 at 2:19 pm
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 2:19 pm to
I'm glad I'm not trying to figure out the cluster frick that will be taxing unrealized gain/loss of non-public traded investment vehicles.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63313 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 2:23 pm to
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and you got that wrong too.
Its a copy paste of your post.

Fell free to explain how paid-in-capital is similar to paying taxes. You’ve had ample opportunity. You can do it any time you like.

But I wil say I admire your dedication to being wrong.
This post was edited on 10/25/21 at 2:25 pm
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22714 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 2:23 pm to
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Do you have some kind of issue with that?

You don't think people should get the government they want?

You didn't follow the exchange correctly (at least up to this point). I'm the one making that argument. The Taxauthority dude is the one arguing against it. He's simping for the wealthy because that's the role the Left has assigned him, whether he realizes it or not.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138873 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 2:25 pm to
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I'm glad I'm not trying to figure out the cluster frick that will be taxing unrealized gain/loss of non-public traded investment vehicles.
This is not about taxing the wealthiest US multibillionaires.

It is about forcing you to reveal the entirety of your savings to the IRS.
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