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re: New billionaire's tax plan aimed at the 0.0002%

Posted on 10/25/21 at 4:19 pm to
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22714 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 4:19 pm to
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You should be. They don't. To be clear Republican Politicians may almost be as interested in knowing your net savings as Dems are

Why should I be? Why should I be certain all the information on you held by your bank, your credit cards, your loans/mortgages, your investments, your brokers, your CPAs/lawyers, Facebook, Google, etc., etc. is out of the reach of the gov't?

How did DOJ learn about who attended the 1/6 "insurrection"?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138873 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 4:22 pm to
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When will that legislation be introduced
NEVER!
That is the goddamned point!

E.g.,
Bill Gates publicly says, "PLEASE TAX ME!"
Bill Gates privately says to Dems, "If you tax my foundation, I will gut you like a fish."

So while the Gates Foundation may well not return one cent to the US in """"charitable"""" contributions, politicians are not about to touch the >>$200 Billion it entails.

Instead they'll go after several thousand bucks from David_DJS's account and millions like it.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63313 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 4:23 pm to
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Do you understand that what you posted here (my posts) is 100% consistent?
You claimed you didn't say it. Now you're claiming consistency. How many drinks have you had today?

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Fine platitudes/talking points, but what are the actions?
Literally in the part you quoted.

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I'm all for taking back the culture, but I'm 100% certain that ain't happening as long as conservatives sit back and wait for someone else to do something.
Of course not. Where have I argued conservatives shouldn't take up the cultural fight?

That said... I am equally sure it won't happen by enacting the socialist agenda.

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Says you. With no supportive arguments.
Da fuq? If you want to argue that socialism will increase personal responsibility I'd LOVE to hear it. You're the one making the argument for implementing this policy. Don't expect me to support it.

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So I'll frame it in question form: what's the downside in the political fight between Right and Left to letting Democrats tax George Soros?
Capitulating isn't fighting. Name a time capital flight has a country be more successful.

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Why are you under the impression there is "competitive capitalism's" basic tenets to fight for? The ship has sailed.
Ok. Good. You admit to being a socialist. Fine. Stop masquerading as a "conservative" or a capitalist.

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You didn't answer my question.
I did. Earlier in the post. You still haven't shown that confiscation of unrealised wealth will be a good idea.

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What are your suggestions to beat George Soros, Zuckerberg and the Google boys back into their box?
*Yawn* I'm not interested in revenge for people because they are wealthy. Bills of Attainder aren't the purpose of our government--for good reason. Wealth-hate is stupid basis for policy.

I get it. You hate "the rich". You want an authoritarian socialist government that persecutes political enemies of by confiscating their wealth. Sorry. I don't. It's never worked out for the "non-rich". It didn't work in Venezuela and it won't work here. You've made no argument to convince me that form of government is a good idea. Go check with Bernie and AOC. They may have some talking points you like.

Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63313 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 4:25 pm to
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IMO conservatives are about 3 steps behind the bullshite.
Noting says catch up like "enact socialism!" This is like saying "I hope LSU loses every game so they can eventually beat Alabama"
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22714 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 4:44 pm to
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You claimed you didn't say it. Now you're claiming consistency. How many drinks have you had today?

Listen, it seems maybe English isn't your first language, which is totally cool - but when something is explained to you 3 times and you're still not understanding, maybe it's a point you just leave behind?

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Literally in the part you quoted.

You don't understand the difference between a broad suggestion and actions? "Taking back the culture" is not a plan. It's a goal.

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If you want to argue that socialism will increase personal responsibility I'd LOVE to hear it. You're the one making the argument for implementing this policy. Don't expect me to support it.

If you ever want to understand my point of view, let me know and I'll explain it again, but if you're convinced I'm advocating for socialism, then you're reading what you want to read and not what's there.

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Capitulating isn't fighting. Name a time capital flight has a country be more successful.

1. You didn't answer my question.

2. If it's George Soros's capital, I'm all for it's flight out of the country.

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Ok. Good. You admit to being a socialist. Fine. Stop masquerading as a "conservative" or a capitalist.

I get it. You hate "the rich". You want an authoritarian socialist government that persecutes political enemies of by confiscating their wealth. Sorry. I don't. It's never worked out for the "non-rich". It didn't work in Venezuela and it won't work here. You've made no argument to convince me that form of government is a good idea. Go check with Bernie and AOC. They may have some talking points you like.

JHFC you're dense.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63313 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 5:26 pm to
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Listen, it seems maybe English isn't your first language, which is totally cool - but when something is explained to you 3 times and you're still not understanding, maybe it's a point you just leave behind?
Tends to happen when it's explained 3 contradictory ways.

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You don't understand the difference between a broad suggestion and actions? "Taking back the culture" is not a plan. It's a goal.
You're right. Enacting socialsim is a great plan. Let's go with that.

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2. If it's George Soros's capital, I'm all for it's flight out of the country.
This just demonstrates you're hate driven. Not all rich people are George Soros. But they will all flee.

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JHFC you're dense.
It remains your position. I guess you only like it when you say it?
This post was edited on 10/25/21 at 5:28 pm
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22714 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 6:09 pm to
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Tends to happen when it's explained 3 contradictory ways.

Except it hasn't been explained 3 contradictory ways. I don't know how to help you here beyond suggesting you not try to make a point when you're not understanding what you're responding to.

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You're right. Enacting socialsim is a great plan. Let's go with that.

This is getting weird.

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This just demonstrates you're hate driven. Not all rich people are George Soros. But they will all flee.

And weirder.

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It remains your position. I guess you only like it when you say it?

And weirder yet.

You argue like a liberal. When you read something that goes against your 1985 Reagan era sensibilities, your respond by arguing hyperbolic bullshite. I can't be a conservative, have to be a socialist - simply because I make a political argument that you don't understand. No different than some retarded Lefty on MSNBC arguing that it's racist to think Kamala is a moron.

Did you know Trump advocated for a wealth tax?

Did you know Trump had a high-earner income tax increase ready to go?

If you want to understand my POV, go read/listen to Steve Bannon. In spite of what might be your initial inkling, he's not a socialist, and he's pretty f'n conservative.

There was a meme posted in a thread several months ago that showed an "Occupy Wall Street" float from 2011 adorned by all the typical "business is bad" bullshite, and next to it a pic of another float from 2020, same "protesters" and full of SJW shite, etc., and placards all over the place denoting corporate sponsorship by Chase, Walmart, Amazon, Google, etc. I wish I could find it because it depicts a shite ton of what's happened over the last 10 years that you don't understand.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63313 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 7:23 pm to
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Except it hasn't been explained 3 contradictory ways.


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This is getting weird.
Yep. When someone feeds your argument back to you, you argue against it.

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Did you know Trump advocated for a wealth tax?
This not an argument of merit.

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Did you know Trump had a high-earner income tax increase ready to go?
Nor is this.

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In spite of what might be your initial inkling, he's not a socialist, and he's pretty f'n conservative.

Nothing says conservative like "eat the rich"! I humbly suggest you consider Bannon is as big of a hypocrite as your list of evil people.
This post was edited on 10/25/21 at 7:26 pm
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
23151 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 7:40 pm to
They won't pay it.

The democrats will just write some bullshite tax breaks for investing in companies like Solyndra
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31553 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 7:45 pm to
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Yeah this looks appealing until it is expanded to include 401Ks and other investments for the common man…

Oh it’s coming.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63313 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:26 pm to
LINK to some random Twitter

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Aaron Lowry
@Aaron_Lowry

When borrowing from the future by creating unbacked currency is no longer sufficient you may double down by taxing those future "gains" before they're even realized.

Late stage fiat.
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