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re: Navy Sailor Who Jumped Off USS Abraham Lincoln Faces Disciplinary Charges, Could Lose Pay
Posted on 8/28/26 at 10:57 am to BFIV
Posted on 8/28/26 at 10:57 am to BFIV
"My baby girl got her honorable discharge in May of 2025. She deployed on both the Truman and the Roosevelt. On her 2nd deployment (Roosevelt), they were off the coast of Yeman protecting the Bab-el-Mandeb strait and the Gulf of Hormuz. Yes, her deployment there was extended, too. She told us that a female sailor jumped off the stern of the Roosevelt to commit suicide, but was rescued. She never did find out the disciplinary results, but the sailor was removed from the ship. Yes, the conditions there were tough and hot. She worked on the flight deck, was a plane captain, and an aviation machinist mate. She passed out three times from the heat during that deployment and she was not the only flight deck crewman to do so. She didn't complain. She did her duty and I will always be proud of her for her service and sacrifice. FWIW, she will be 24 this Sunday."
Heck yeah!!! Good job raising her! Give her a big Thank You from me for her service!
Heck yeah!!! Good job raising her! Give her a big Thank You from me for her service!
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Posted on 8/28/26 at 10:57 am to cajunangelle
Likely getting busted down and admin separated at minimum. The military doesn’t need personnel who jump overboard. Now days in the military a simple DUI can lead to an administrative separation/general discharge.
Posted on 8/28/26 at 10:57 am to Saint Alfonzo
You jarred my memory remembering hearing that term. He should get a bad conduct discharge. BCD big chicken dinner.
His wife going on MSNOW AKA MSDNC won't help him. Trying to bring disdain to the USN, CIC, SecWar is unsat
His wife going on MSNOW AKA MSDNC won't help him. Trying to bring disdain to the USN, CIC, SecWar is unsat
This post was edited on 8/28/26 at 10:58 am
Posted on 8/28/26 at 10:59 am to Saint Alfonzo
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Bust you down in rank, take your pay, kick you out on a bad conduct discharge.
I hope so. In a SHTF scenario, this guy cannot be depended upon to do his job, thus putting his entire crew and ship at risk. I wouldn't want him in my unit, squadron, foxhole, or platoon.
Posted on 8/28/26 at 10:59 am to BoarEd
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He is looking at forfeiture of half his pay for a couple months, he could lose some rank (one pay grade), restriction for up to 60 days, extra duty for 45 days, and correctional custody.
Also known as NJP (non-judicial punishment).
Different branches call it different things. In the Army, we called it an Article 15.
Posted on 8/28/26 at 11:01 am to cajunangelle
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This kid could have joined just to off himself. They have jumpers on civilian and military cruises. The Navy takes mental health seriously.
Just about every military base has a psychologist who helps with adjusting to military life and helping them with problems. The most interesting issue deals with exiting after a long career. After 20+ years in the military a lot of soldiers have trouble adjusting back to civilian lifestyle and some get into trouble.
Posted on 8/28/26 at 11:04 am to Saint Alfonzo
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Not really. He won't go back to whatever unit he belongs to
How does this change anything? His wife went on national television and bad mouthed the Navy. It won't matter what unit he goes to until he out processes.
Posted on 8/28/26 at 11:06 am to BFIV
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My baby girl got her honorable discharge in May of 2025. She deployed on both the Truman and the Roosevelt. On her 2nd deployment (Roosevelt), they were off the coast of Yeman protecting the Bab-el-Mandeb strait and the Gulf of Hormuz. Yes, her deployment there was extended, too. She told us that a female sailor jumped off the stern of the Roosevelt to commit suicide, but was rescued. She never did find out the disciplinary results, but the sailor was removed from the ship. Yes, the conditions there were tough and hot. She worked on the flight deck, was a plane captain, and an aviation machinist mate. She passed out three times from the heat during that deployment and she was not the only flight deck crewman to do so. She didn't complain. She did her duty and I will always be proud of her for her service and sacrifice. FWIW, she will be 24 this Sunday.
You should be so proud! All due respect to your daughter! Wow, those are the toughest jobs. Happy Birthday!Posted on 8/28/26 at 11:07 am to Godfather1
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In the Army, we called it an Article 15.
This guy is facing an Article 83 and an Article 86. Malingering and AWOL.
Posted on 8/28/26 at 11:10 am to cajunangelle
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You jarred my memory remembering hearing that term. He should get a bad conduct discharge. BCD big chicken dinner.
that requires a court martial and there's no way they're going to take him to CM. probably NJP + admin separation.
also, no one really says "big chicken dinner"
Posted on 8/28/26 at 11:11 am to BFIV
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was a plane captain
Thanks for the insight. Please thank her for her service. Sounds like you raised her right.
Is the term "plane captain" self explanatory? Was she the mechanic responsible for a particular aircraft?
Posted on 8/28/26 at 11:21 am to cajunangelle
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You jarred my memory remembering hearing that term. He should get a bad conduct discharge. BCD big chicken dinner.
I've seen it happen more times than I can count.
This post was edited on 8/28/26 at 11:23 am
Posted on 8/28/26 at 11:24 am to Godfather1
“It’s not for everyone”
When I was in Iceland a guy in another barracks tied some sheets together,tied it around his neck and jumped out of a 2’nd story window.
His knots came untied so it didn’t kill him but he was hurt pretty bad.He was
flown to Germany so don’t know how it turned out.
Iceland sucked in the winter,dark most of the day,bad weather,etc.I occupied myself reading and listening to music.
When I was in Iceland a guy in another barracks tied some sheets together,tied it around his neck and jumped out of a 2’nd story window.
His knots came untied so it didn’t kill him but he was hurt pretty bad.He was
flown to Germany so don’t know how it turned out.
Iceland sucked in the winter,dark most of the day,bad weather,etc.I occupied myself reading and listening to music.
Posted on 8/28/26 at 11:24 am to IvoryBillMatt
I don't wish to speak for him but pilots themselves are on deck communicating with the pilots. On deck in any role is dangerous.
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A U.S. Navy plane captain is a junior enlisted sailor (usually E-1 to E-4) responsible for the hands-on maintenance, pre-flight inspections, and launch supervision of a specific assigned aircraft.
Role and ResponsibilitiesThe Final Check: Plane captains wear distinctive brown jerseys and cranials on the flight deck. They conduct meticulous pre-flight and post-flight inspections, check fluid levels, and ensure the aircraft is completely free of foreign object debris (FOD).
Pilot Liaison: They act as the primary direct link between the maintenance team and the pilot, communicating through specific hand signals during engine startup and final checks before giving a formal salute as the jet launches.
Absolute Trust: Because they perform the final safety sign-off before a mission, pilots rely entirely on the plane captain's assessment that a multimillion-dollar aircraft is safe to fly.
Posted on 8/28/26 at 11:24 am to cajunangelle
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it appears his wife went on MSNow to complain and tie it to ships conditions, crappy food.
Yeah none of that seems suicide worthy.
Posted on 8/28/26 at 11:25 am to BoarEd
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This guy is facing an Article 83 and an Article 86. Malingering and AWOL.
Article 15 (UCMJ) is a procedure (non-judicial punishment) for prosecuting infractions of those articles.
Posted on 8/28/26 at 11:25 am to BoarEd
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How does this change anything? His wife went on national television and bad mouthed the Navy. It won't matter what unit he goes to until he out processes.
Do you think he's gonna get a blanket party or something? He'll be admin separated pretty quickly unless they want to court martial him.
Posted on 8/28/26 at 11:28 am to IvoryBillMatt
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Is the term "plane captain" self explanatory? Was she the mechanic responsible for a particular aircraft?
She was responsible for making sure everything on and around the F-18 was working properly, no obstructions anywhere, and signaling to the pilot that everything was right and he was good to launch. She was the flight crewman who gave the instructions and hand signals to the pilot to launch. I call it the guy who kneels down on one knee and gives the signal to "go".
Posted on 8/28/26 at 11:32 am to IvoryBillMatt
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Was she the mechanic responsible for a particular aircraft?
Ih the shop area of the carrier, she was one of the mechanics who worked on the F-18's in her squadron. Since she is petite and short, she got the honor of working on the interior portions of the intake and exhaust that most of the guys couldn't fit into. They were always calling on her to grab something in tight places because their hands were way too big to fit. LOL!
Posted on 8/28/26 at 11:32 am to cajunangelle
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MS Now
Should tell you all you need to know about this story and the way it's written up. There are high school newspapers that provide better and more accurate stories than MS Now.
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