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Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:39 am to Powerman
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It's a problem that largely no longer exists.
It exists. The numbers are still large.
The demographics of the invaders are changing though. Fewer from Mexico and more from other Central American shitholes.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:39 am to SDVTiger
quote:Actually, to be solved it needs to be in the negative numbers.
When that number is zero its been solved. You deserve a downvote
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:39 am to GumboPot
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It's like you were born with a sore vag.
I'm not the one that stupidly claimed that this was due to the current administration when there is a history of it happening for over 15 years. That would be you.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:40 am to Powerman
Trump has a plan.
1. Build Wall in 1st term.
2. Send illegals back in 2nd term.
3. Illegals can't easily return during Pence's first term due to already built Wall.
1. Build Wall in 1st term.
2. Send illegals back in 2nd term.
3. Illegals can't easily return during Pence's first term due to already built Wall.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:40 am to Powerman
It's amusing that you think there isn't a problem still. I have several friends who I see every week that are BP agents and they will tell you the illegal crossings are always happening.
310,000 illegal crossings a year, even if true, is too many.
False
310,000 illegal crossings a year, even if true, is too many.
quote:
no longer exists
False
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:41 am to Powerman
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Is the data trending in the preferred direction without a wall? That is the question you should be asking yourself.
I disagree completely.
You may think that is the question you need to be asking YOURSELF. But, I am onboard with the others.
Now..."wall" may not be the answer. But, we damn sure need enforcement and security on the border. To use the statistics you noted in order to suggest "meh...fixed" seems like silliness to me.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:41 am to PsychTiger
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Trump has a plan.
1. Build Wall in 1st term.
2. Send illegals back in 2nd term.
3. Illegals can't easily return during Pence's first term due to already built Wall.
OK fair enough
How will this plan make life better for Americans?
How will the cost benefit analysis be justified?
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:41 am to Powerman
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Trump is trying to solve a problem that has already been solved
We had at least 310,000 illegal border crossings in 2017. Even with those bullshite estimates, the problem still exists.
Have a down vote.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:41 am to Powerman
The problem exists, no matter which mental tricks you try to use to convince yourself and others that it does not exist.
The proof is in the facts. Look at the historical progression of the matter. Don't interpret a lull in the wave as a cessation of the process. Do you suppose that when the tide is low that the waters will never rise again? No. That would be illogical because that would be to ignore the nature of the process.
Careful, my child. Do not victimize yourself with your own stupidity. Be strong and fight your stupid nature.
The proof is in the facts. Look at the historical progression of the matter. Don't interpret a lull in the wave as a cessation of the process. Do you suppose that when the tide is low that the waters will never rise again? No. That would be illogical because that would be to ignore the nature of the process.
Careful, my child. Do not victimize yourself with your own stupidity. Be strong and fight your stupid nature.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:41 am to Powerman
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With a country of over 320 million people I don't consider it to be much of a problem
Particularly when the number has been very quickly diminishing for over a decade
It's the trend that is important. The numbers are already trending downward without a wall and have been doing so for over a decade
How will this plan make life better for Americans?
How will the cost benefit analysis be justified?
You're trying to apply logic to a situation in which many people here are attached emotionally as right wing media has been fueling the false narrative that immigrants are the reason blue collar jobs are trending downward for years now. That keeps these people in fear of the "other" and as such they are easy to control.
This post was edited on 4/5/18 at 9:42 am
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:41 am to Powerman
Allowing even one illegal is is a problem. I'm all for lawful and legal immigration, but illegal immigration adds to the problem of class and deficit. More illegals = a larger poverty class percentage, which = an issue because our administration is trying to shrink the poverty class by creating more and better jobs, as opposed to growing the class by letting more people in illegally and then using government funding to feed, shelter and aid them (including legal protection from ICE and other agencies which were designed to deal with the exact scenario we're seeing, but are being obstructed from doing their job by liberal politicians such as those in California).
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:42 am to Powerman
NPR. Lol
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:42 am to Powerman
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Trump is trying to solve a problem that has already been solved
It takes ONE open borders president/Congress to completely reverse that trend. You think a short term trend solves a problem into perpetuity? Are you that stupid or do you just think we are that stupid?
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:42 am to Powerman
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I'm not the one that stupidly claimed that this was due to the current administration when there is a history of it happening for over 15 years. That would be you.
Do you understand that deportations were counted differently in the last administration compared to the current administration?
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:42 am to Powerman
ONE illegal coming across the border is too many.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:42 am to The Pirate King
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NPR. Lol
where do you get your news?
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:43 am to Powerman
Take a lot at some StratFor graphs on trafficking and get back to us.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:43 am to Powerman
Will you post a bond that guarantees that trend will continue downward?
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:43 am to Powerman
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Illegal border crossings in the year 2017 : 310,531
So in this day and age you are on record as being OK with over 300,000 people coming into the country and no one having any control over who they are or what they are bringing.
You sir are what we refer to as fricking idiot in polite circles.
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