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re: My problem with the Trump wall: it's solving an imaginary problem

Posted on 4/5/18 at 6:43 pm to
Posted by Jake_LaMotta
Coral Gables
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 4/5/18 at 6:43 pm to
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As far as problems go it's the least problematic it has been in decades.


Saying something like this ignores the already 30 some odd million that are here using and wasting resources of American taxpayers.
Posted by TimeOutdoors
LA
Member since Sep 2014
13401 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 6:44 pm to
If this guy is just going to respond with nonsense to keep this post on the front page can one of the admins just go ahead and anchor it so we can have real discussions with people that want to have sincere discussions?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173381 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 7:09 pm to
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Saying something like this ignores the already 30 some odd million t

30 million?

How do you expect to be taken seriously when you inflate the number that much?

And certainly not all illegal aliens are a strain on the system. Most are probably not much worse than American citizens if they're any worse at all.

They're here to make a better life for themselves. You don't do that by getting on welfare.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47511 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 7:13 pm to
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They're here to make a better life for themselves. You don't do that by sneaking into a country illegally and using up resources like emergency rooms and public schools without paying income taxes.


Fify


Eta.


quote:

How do you expect to be taken seriously


quote:

Powerman


This post was edited on 4/5/18 at 7:16 pm
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 7:14 pm to
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They're here to make a better life for themselves. You don't do that by getting on welfare.
Being on welfare in America is better than being poor in Honduras.
Posted by Jake_LaMotta
Coral Gables
Member since Sep 2017
5700 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 7:16 pm to


The 11 million number has been in use as early as 1996.

That was 22 years ago. Sorry but actual estimates by research groups put the current number at 25 to 30 million illegal immigrants from Mexico and Central America alone.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173381 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 7:17 pm to
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Sorry but actual estimates by research groups put the current number at 25 to 30 million illegal immigrants from Mexico and Central America alone.

Care to cite your source on that?
Posted by griswold
Member since Oct 2009
4301 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 7:19 pm to
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My problem with the Trump wall: it's solving an imaginary problem

I have the same problem with your post.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173381 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 7:20 pm to
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Being on welfare in America is better than being poor in Honduras

Sure

And being gainfully employed in America is better than being on welfare in America

Unless of course one had to work with you. Then I'd probably rather be poor in Honduras.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47511 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 7:21 pm to
If it's 11 million, it's a giant problem.

If it's 30 million, it's a giant problem.

This is essentially the same shitty argument you made in the op.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173381 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 7:22 pm to
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If it's 11 million, it's a giant problem.

If it's 30 million, it's a giant problem.


Well since we can't agree on the number perhaps you can tell me about all of the problems it is causing for you in your personal life.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47511 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 7:23 pm to
That's an asinine deflection.

How pathetic it is to see you still here flailing... Just like shorty said you would.
Posted by humanlement
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2014
536 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 7:25 pm to
Over 50,000 were turned away last month you arse. And that’s just the one that we’re caught. The wall is needed and will be built
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173381 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 7:30 pm to
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The wall is needed

Right. Amazing the republic hasn't already collapsed without it

Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
8088 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 7:45 pm to
If you're wife fricked 47 guys last year but only 13 this year, does that mean your cuck problem is imaginary and has been solved?

310,000 is still 310,000 too many.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173381 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 7:46 pm to
I'm not married

You and Shorty Rob both independently came up with the wife being fricked by less people analogy

Weird

Are yall step brothers with different dads or something?
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
27749 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 10:05 pm to
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Name one where you wouldn't recommend massive government solution. Other than this one of course.


This one is a big government solution. 310,000 immigrants per year times $10,000 per year in government services per immigrant is $3.1B per year. By next year, it's $6.2B, and so on, and so on.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35862 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 10:11 pm to
A decent sized city of illegals every year? Not a problem? Every 10 years adding a city roughly the size of ATL...Of nothing but illegals. Not a problem? Wow.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
23244 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 11:10 pm to
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They're here to make a better life for themselves. You don't do that by getting on welfare.




Yet millions of them do get welfare and are far better off than they were in Honduras or Mexico.

It would seem that you have a VERY poor understanding of this issue.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34925 posts
Posted on 4/6/18 at 9:26 am to
Alright frick it I’m not biting my tongue anymore

You are a stupid, piece of shite... I mean honestly it’s infuriating to try to have a conversation with someone like you

I hope one of those 310,000 illegal immigrants shoves a pineapple up your arse sideways





Yea, I came in hot... so what?
This post was edited on 4/6/18 at 9:29 am
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