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My problem with the Trump wall: it's solving an imaginary problem
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:31 am
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:31 am
It seems that people are completely separated from reality on this issue. It isn't 2006. We don't have mass migrations of illegals across our borders like we used to.
It's a problem that largely no longer exists.
Illegal crossings already lowest since 1971
Some more data on the topic
https://www.npr.org/2017/12/05/568546381/arrests-for-illegal-border-crossings-hit-46-year-low
Illegal border crossings in the year 2000 : 1,676,438
Illegal border crossings in the year 2017 : 310,531
There is a graph in the above link that shows a downward trend
Trump is trying to solve a problem that has already been solved
It's a problem that largely no longer exists.
Illegal crossings already lowest since 1971
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President Trump says he wants to use the military to secure the border with Mexico until the U.S. can build a wall there. He says he is studying border security options with Defense Secretary James Mattis. One option is to send National Guard troops to help the border patrol.
Mr. Trump's call to militarize the border comes as illegal border crossings last year were at the lowest levels since 1971, reports CBS News correspondent Chip Reid.
Some more data on the topic
https://www.npr.org/2017/12/05/568546381/arrests-for-illegal-border-crossings-hit-46-year-low
Illegal border crossings in the year 2000 : 1,676,438
Illegal border crossings in the year 2017 : 310,531
There is a graph in the above link that shows a downward trend
Trump is trying to solve a problem that has already been solved
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Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:32 am to Powerman
Damn it! I wanted to be the first down vote. 
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:32 am to Powerman
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Illegal border crossings in the year 2000 : 1,676,438 Illegal border crossings in the year 2017 : 310,531
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Trump is trying to solve a problem that has already been solved
Obviously it hasn’t been solved.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:33 am to Powerman
Just the threat of the wall and the military presence is freaking them the frick out. Besides, it's the cartels we have to deal with too. The Mexican government sure doesn't give a shite about them.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:33 am to Powerman
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Trump is trying to solve a problem that has already been solved
You think 310,000 illegals a year is not a problem? Damn.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:33 am to Powerman
It's basically solved because we have an administration in office enforcing our border laws.
The wall is not for this administration.
The wall is for future administrations who will be intentionally lazy on border security.
The wall is not for this administration.
The wall is for future administrations who will be intentionally lazy on border security.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:33 am to Powerman
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Illegal border crossings in the year 2017 : 310,531
What, is there some minimum acceptable number for you? This number should be 0.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:34 am to Powerman
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It's a problem that largely no longer exists.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:34 am to Powerman
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Illegal border crossings in the year 2017 : 310,531
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Trump is trying to solve a problem that has already been solved
When that number is zero its been solved. You deserve a downvote
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:34 am to GumboPot
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The wall is for future administrations who will be intentionally lazy on border security.
This.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:34 am to Powerman
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Trump is trying to solve a problem that has already been solved
It has definitely not been solved.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:35 am to Powerman
A million people illegally entering your country every three years doesn't qualify a problem as "solved."
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:35 am to Homesick Tiger
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You think 310,000 illegals a year is not a problem? Damn.
With a country of over 320 million people I don't consider it to be much of a problem
Particularly when the number has been very quickly diminishing for over a decade
It's the trend that is important. The numbers are already trending downward without a wall and have been doing so for over a decade
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:36 am to GumboPot
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It's basically solved because we have an administration in office enforcing our border laws.
This isn't something new
Try again moron
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:37 am to SDVTiger
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When that number is zero its been solved. You deserve a downvote
And I'm sure roads will only be acceptably safe to you once motor vehicle accidents go to zero also right?
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:37 am to Powerman
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Illegal border crossings in the year 2000 : 1,676,438
Illegal border crossings in the year 2017 : 310,531
There is a graph in the above link that shows a downward trend
Trump is trying to solve a problem that has already been solved
So your cutoff of Problem/Not a Problem is arbitrarily between 1.6million and 310k. Ok, thats at least good to know for future reference.
And no, its not "Solved". 310K people are crossing the border Illegally EVERY year. From just one (albeit the biggest) border and method of entering the US.
So not, its not Solved. Not by a long shot.
The entire premise of your entire comment is a lie
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:37 am to Boatshoes
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A million people illegally entering your country every three years doesn't qualify a problem as "solved."
Is the data trending in the preferred direction without a wall? That is the question you should be asking yourself.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:38 am to Powerman
A physical wall is not just for reducing illegal entry into the country. We also have a problem with illegal drugs being smuggled in through the Southern border.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:38 am to Powerman
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This isn't something new
Try again moron
It's like you were born with a sore vag.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:39 am to SundayFunday
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So your cutoff of Problem/Not a Problem is arbitrarily between 1.6million and 310k. Ok, thats at least good to know for future reference.
It's called being able to recognize a very obvious downward trend
Perhaps that is difficult for you. I don't know.
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