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re: My problem with the Trump wall: it's solving an imaginary problem
Posted on 4/5/18 at 10:46 am to Powerman
Posted on 4/5/18 at 10:46 am to Powerman
quote:Why do you start threads on subjects you fail to research and are obviously ignorant about? You then call others names when you get rightfully called out. The entire premise of your OP is incorrect. In your usual arrogance, you failed to take some time to research Obama's immigration policies.
This isn't something new
Try again moron
President Obama's Record of Dismantling Immigration Enforcement | Federation for American Immigration Reform
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Posted on 4/5/18 at 10:47 am to tjv305
quote:
Liberals away say the wall will not work but they are dead set against it . If really will not work why not let republicans have tha wall for something you want ?
Trump even offered them DACA for it, and they didn't go for it.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 10:48 am to Jbird
quote:I'm not in favor of punishing people for taking advantage of a problem that the government created in the first place. If I'm a business owner and need some unskilled labor I'd love to pay pennies on the dollar and avoid payroll taxes. If I'm a landlord I just want my rent to show up on time.
everything from the wall to hammering businesses that hire illegals, landlords that rent to them.
The real way to cut demand is to stop feeding, housing, educated and providing medical care for them. The ones that want to come here and provide for themselves 100% are more than welcome.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 10:49 am to PsychTiger
quote:Because it takes DACA off the table and the Dems lose a talking point.
Trump even offered them DACA for it, and they didn't go for it.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 10:49 am to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:As long as they do it legally, concur.
The real way to cut demand is to stop feeding, housing, educated and providing medical care for them. The ones that want to come here and provide for themselves 100% are more than welcome.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 10:51 am to Powerman
quote:
Illegal border crossings in the year 2017 : 310,531
That's almost 26,000 a month, just under a thousand per day. To many.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 10:51 am to Powerman
I'm wid you bro. Wall = expensive. Land mines = cheap. Use land mines. You blow up a half a dozen or so and the rest will turn around and head back to la casa.
Also mines could speed up the deportation process. Now we catch your a$$ slipping over the border we have to go through a court proceeding to deport you. With mines we could offer a choice. You waive the "process" and we'll drive/fly you back. You lose in the "process" then you walk back across the border.
Also mines could speed up the deportation process. Now we catch your a$$ slipping over the border we have to go through a court proceeding to deport you. With mines we could offer a choice. You waive the "process" and we'll drive/fly you back. You lose in the "process" then you walk back across the border.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 10:52 am to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:
If I'm a business owner and need some unskilled labor I'd love to pay pennies on the dollar and avoid payroll taxes. I
To be honest a lot of them don't make pennies on the dollar and get hired by contract labor services that provide all of the "legal" documentation for them to work. At least that's my experience in the industrial industry. Some of them are making 1000 plus a week for helper positions.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 10:54 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
Wall is a 16th century solution
That still works, and physical barriers are still used successfully by other nations today
Posted on 4/5/18 at 10:54 am to deltaland
quote:
Saying this problem is solved is like saying the deficit problem is solved when it was reduced from 800 billion to 400 billion
Would you say that it is improving or worsening in that situation?
Posted on 4/5/18 at 10:54 am to stickly
quote:
So your only viable solutions are:
No, increase the penalty for hiring or forging documents dramatically.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 10:55 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
RogerTheShrubber
All fine arguments but not really related to the OP.
OP friggin thinks there's no problem because trends are permanent!!
Posted on 4/5/18 at 10:56 am to Powerman
There is no substance deserving a reply. 300,00 is still an alarming amount. They arrive illegally, have a few children, receive free benefits, live off of the rest of us taxpayers and secure a few more votes for your party? I'm sick of my tax dollars going to support welfare, illegals and the entire democratic cesspool offering nothing yet always holding a hand out hoping for a donation entirely to support your voting base.
You're a blind, mentally challenged 3 legged dog. When you finally drown in your own misery, I'll travel to wherever you are to piss on your grave.
Now go back to your safe space and drown you irrational pussy.
You're a blind, mentally challenged 3 legged dog. When you finally drown in your own misery, I'll travel to wherever you are to piss on your grave.
Now go back to your safe space and drown you irrational pussy.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 10:56 am to Powerman
quote:
Would you say that it is improving or worsening in that situation?
Classic P'man.
Hide for about 20 posts. Wait for questions he doesn't like to drift back. Avoid them. Start over.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 10:56 am to SDVTiger
do you really believe any country can get the illegal immigration number to 0?
Posted on 4/5/18 at 10:59 am to ShortyRob
quote:
OP friggin thinks there's no problem because trends are permanent!!
Yeah, "the problem has already been solved" is pathetic.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 11:00 am to Powerman
quote:Why?
Would you say that it is improving or worsening in that situation?
Posted on 4/5/18 at 11:00 am to Aristo
Some of the "enlightened" European countries do. How's that working for them?
Posted on 4/5/18 at 11:01 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
No, increase the penalty for hiring or forging documents dramatically.
Imagine you have a house with no doors. Every day people are coming in whenever they want, stealing your shite, taking dumps on your couch, eating all of the food in your fridge. What would your solution be to that problem? Would you still let them in and only penalize them when they crapped on the couch or would you get some fricking doors?
Posted on 4/5/18 at 11:02 am to Jbird
quote:Dude thinks it's a good look to just pretend he didn't see questions.
Jbird
I'm good with that. It's not like everyone can't see it.
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