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re: MSNBC: Democrats want Pardons for Jack Smith and his team
Posted on 12/2/24 at 10:08 am to Flats
Posted on 12/2/24 at 10:08 am to Flats
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Yet you felt compelled to respond.
Look at the digression of the conversation, specifically the use of the term
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I have no idea why you like to treat lawfare like it's a myth.
Because it's about getting a universal definition to avoid (or point out) the aforementioned hypocrisy (not by me)
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Posted on 12/2/24 at 10:10 am to John Barron
They know they violated many laws persecuting Trump under the false color of law.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 10:26 am to SDVTiger
Nice cultist retort since you cannot even attempt to adequately refute. How's the fish, Cap? Need help landing a job on a shrimp trawler?
Posted on 12/2/24 at 10:37 am to mauser
For what exactly? Unless he was a corrupt criminal that brought the law and/or committed treason, there is no need for a pardon.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 10:39 am to SlowFlowPro
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Because it's about getting a universal definition
But that doesn't exist. You like to pretend that because it doesn't exist then any discussion on the topic is pointless.
As I said, that's an asinine take. There isn't a "universal definition" of child porn, but you don't go derailing the discussion every time child porn is mentioned.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 10:47 am to Mick Hogger
quote:True.
The people who run into threads and mention him before he posts are the ones who feed him and then the thread becomes mostly about him.
It feeds his ego, then the thread becomes about him.
It is what he wants.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 10:48 am to KiwiHead
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Not filing or paying his taxes? What could you hope to find out? " sir, I was so frickex up at the time, that I did not care and anyway I had no money because I spent it all on crack and other assorted drugs."
As expected, your screaming hot take falls short of reality:
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The accuracy of the White House statement is questionable, based on our recent reporting with IRS whistleblower and Hunter Biden case agent Joseph Ziegler.
Herridge: What do you think the biggest misconception is about the Hunter Biden case?
ZIEGLER: "That he committed this felony tax conduct while he was high on drugs and he was out of his mind and he wasn't, not true. He actually filed these false tax returns when he admitted in his book that he was newly sober."
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Posted on 12/2/24 at 10:53 am to SlowFlowPro
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Because it's about getting a universal definition to avoid (or point out) the aforementioned hypocrisy (not by me)
It should be about coming to an agreed definition. Not a universal one. What do you disagree with concerning the definition I posted earlier?
Strategic use of legal systems and procedures to achieve political, military, or ideological objectives, rather than for the purpose of seeking justice or resolving a legal dispute. It involves the manipulation or weaponization of legal processes to burden, harass, or undermine an adversary, often with the goal of gaining a political advantage or discrediting the opposition, without regard for the merits of the legal case.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 12:07 pm to Flats
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But that doesn't exist.
Then "lawfare" doesn't exist and is just a malleable term that changes with necessity, desire, spite, expediency, etc.
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There isn't a "universal definition" of child porn,
There kind of is. Pornography involving a person under 18.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 12:08 pm to SlowFlowPro
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There kind of is.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 12:12 pm to SidewalkDawg
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I get the legitimacy point, but the problem is that even legitimate charges can be used for political purposes.
That becomes VERY sticky, though. Especially with the "law and order" crowd and their stances on crime/LEO and their views of the out-group.
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it's about how the legal system can be weaponized to attack someone. I.E. bringing charges against Trump right before the 2024 election and timing the cases.
But how long is "right before". In this case you're talking years.
With the HOR, there is a 2-year election cycle. That stance would mean any House member prosecuted could claim lawfare due to impacts on their next putative election.
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The difference is that this isn't about making excuses for crime,
Eh...
There is a lot of "it's OK if my in-group does it and the end of the world if the out-group does it" going on. That's why the NPCs rely so much on whataboutism and associating all the bad things with clandestine oppositional forces (Like with J6 and the allegations that only feds or Antifa were violent).
There is also a lot of minimization of the crimes committed. Just see this thread for good examples of that, too. The Trump classification case has a lot of that historically as well.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 12:13 pm to Jbird
There are 51 major criminal jurisdictions in the US. Which don't define child porn in that way?
Posted on 12/2/24 at 12:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:That’s it?
They're just trying to paint Trump as an authoritarian. Nothing more.
Holy shite
Posted on 12/2/24 at 12:25 pm to ReauxlTide222
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That’s it?
With this particular line of bullshite? yes.
See: the Keith Olberman thread for more of this.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 12:25 pm to SoFla Tideroller
SloFlOweO, mental paraparesis.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 12:28 pm to Scruffy
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True.
It feeds his ego, then the thread becomes about him.
It is what he wants.
It's funny you try to pull this in a thread where someone giving sensible and respectful responses away from NPC garbage gets actual responses and a lack of correction for rhetorical dishonesty.
You picked a bad thread to get on your soap box to create strawmen.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 12:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
LOL I am mocking your kinda is comment. 
Posted on 12/2/24 at 12:51 pm to Goforit
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I doubt that SCOTUS would uphold a blanket open-ended pardon
The pardon power is as close to dictatorial power as possible in the US. The only restriction is that you can't use it to overturn an impeachment.
Per the letter of the Constitution the President can pardon anyone for any federal crime committed no matter what.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 1:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Then "lawfare" doesn't exist
Was that a storm or just rain yesterday? Maybe it just rained and there was no wind so it wasn't a storm, but maybe it dropped 2" so it was definitely a storm whether the wind blew or not. One person may consider it a storm, another will not.
You come in with this retarded idea that since not everybody agrees on what constitutes a "storm" then "storms" don't exist.
As I said, asinine. I don't know why you're so desperate to defend this particular strategy; some weird idolization of the judicial system maybe. But it's a strange tactic and it's even stranger that you think it's effective.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 1:14 pm to SlowFlowPro
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You're literally just lying, at this point.
See, this is your problem right here.
You post the exact same pictures the left uses to peddle their insurrection narrative then crouch it in “who me? I’m just posting pictures of violence”, when you know full well that your intention is to convey the narrative the J6 was an insurrection. When someone rightfully points this out, you start stamping your feet and accuse people of lying.
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