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re: MSNBC: Democrats want Pardons for Jack Smith and his team

Posted on 12/2/24 at 7:07 am to
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 12/2/24 at 7:07 am to
Finally,

the dems make a full confession that they are irredeemably corrupt.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
14494 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 7:08 am to
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To show violence/crimes. Not insurrection.


To repeat democrat talking points that it was an insurrection
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
441689 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 7:08 am to
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It was a Fed operation. Orchestrated by Feds, carried out by Feds.

Got another one

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Good people who were rightfully angry got caught up in the entrapment scheme.

Assuming the above is true, it doesn't fit the current conceptualization of entrapment

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And yes, you do enjoy gargling Jack Smith’s scrotum

I just don't promote idiotic talking points about him that require a sub-90 IQ to believe.

That's not defending him. It's attacking stupidity in discussions about him.

If you were in the other group. you'd understand that.

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You continue to do it in this thread.

My point proven in real time
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/2/24 at 7:09 am to
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To repeat democrat talking points

Yet, I specifically repudiate their talking points.

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that it was an insurrection

Specifically this one.

You're literally just lying, at this point.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
67114 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 7:11 am to
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What do I care that Biden pardons his kid?

"Boys will be boys, amirite?"

You're talking about a sophisticated influence peddling operation where the convicted felon son of a sitting VP was selling access to POTUS via his father's role as VP.

Biden wasn't the target. Hussein was. Joe was simply the vector to reach him.

That you mistakenly believe otherwise indicates that while others of us have used the intervening years to dig into the DC criminal syndicate, you must be all caught up on the various Real Housewives escapades.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/2/24 at 7:15 am to
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you must be all caught up on the various Real Housewives escapades.


The arrogance to say this

while also saying this

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Biden wasn't the target. Hussein was.




You have your own version of Real Housewives that you consume, except that reality show is based more in reality than your content
Posted by Paddyshack
Land of the Free
Member since Sep 2015
10278 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 7:15 am to
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Got another one

Hahahaha you got me SFP! You got me, cum dumpster!

No one knows what the hell you’re saying.

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just don't promote idiotic talking points about him that require a sub-90 IQ to believe. That's not defending him. It's attacking stupidity in discussions about him. If you were in the other group. you'd understand that.

Somehow you’ve convinced yourself that saying Jack Smith engaged in law fare at the behest of the Biden DOJ is an idiotic talking point.

It’s not even a talking point at all. It’s what happened. It’s what everyone saw with their own eyes, except you.

An idiotic talking point would be “I’m not even sure the word lawfare actually exists”
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/2/24 at 7:20 am to
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Hahahaha you got me SFP! You got me, cum dumpster!

You sound as emotional as a J6 rioter

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No one knows what the hell you’re saying.


Fair. It's from a different discussion on page 1 on the same topic

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I already knew you couldn't discuss this topic without referencing an event unrelated to January 6 (like the 2020 riots) or alleged clandestine operatives (whether government, Antifa, "Deep state", etc.)


It's now standard boilerplate J6 discussion disclaimer for me moving forward.

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Somehow you’ve convinced yourself that saying Jack Smith engaged in law fare at the behest of the Biden DOJ is an idiotic talking point.

Considering you can't define "law fare", it is.

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It’s not even a talking point at all. It’s what happened.

"It's what happened" only works when you rely on the most vague and malleable version of the word "lawfare". It's a perpetual Motte and Bailey fallacy.

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An idiotic talking point would be “I’m not even sure the word lawfare actually exists”

Perhaps, but that's not what I have said on the matter, and anything associated with that line of commentary is directly related with the matter of defining the concept, which is the primary goal. If you can't properly give a universal, specific operative definition, then it's nothing more than a moving target you change to fit whatever situation you're discussing.

That is the height of dishonest rhetoric and logical fallacy.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
45234 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 7:24 am to
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It must be pure coincidence that you just happen to show up in every thread about J6 and post the same pictures over and over that the left uses to frame J6 as an insurrection


Pointing out criminality of idiots FAFO'ing has nothing to do with engaging in an insurrection.

Nothing.

This is not some binary scenario, King NPC. It's not a complete nothing burger or the worst thing that's ever happened. There's a lot of room between those 2 polar NPC talking points.

I am vouching for the veracity of this post - I don't live by chasing SFP posts and rarely get in squabbles with him primarily wrt grammatical issues.

We all need to remember there is a huge swath of reality that lives between the two extremes of either political viewpoint.

"J6" was not a 'insurrection' - it was a large political protest about a valid point.

There were some 'crimes' committed during the J6 protest - just like in most large protests.

The fact that the J6 'law breakers' were treated more harshly than the typical "George Floyd" 'law breaker' is a solid observation and THAT should be the point of any discussion rather than any argument over 'insurrection'

The politicians and media whores who carry the water for "insurrection" charges need to be dealt with appropriately - politicians voted out of office or sanctioned, and media whores fired.

Discussions about the 'j6' INCIDENT needs to be moved to a "was the 2020 election secure from fraud" topic.

In any event - the J6 PROTEST was totally VALID - any CRIMES committed were NOT ok.

edit to clean up my 'quote' notation - obviously something got screwed up in my typing during preparing that post.
This post was edited on 12/2/24 at 7:29 am
Posted by Paddyshack
Land of the Free
Member since Sep 2015
10278 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 7:26 am to
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Perhaps, but that's not what I have said on the matter,

This is an outright lie.

I won’t even bother responding to any of the rest of your idiocy, because you’re a liar and a disingenuous troll.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
441689 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 7:28 am to
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This is an outright lie.


Did you fail to read the rest?

Why didn't you quote the entire paragraph?

Speaking of rhetorical dishonesty...

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I won’t even bother responding to any of the rest of your idiocy, because you’re a liar and a disingenuous troll.


The patented straw man white flag.

Literally rely on dishonesty to create a talking point that offends you so much you have perceived glory is avoiding getting owned even more.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
32998 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 7:29 am to
For a people who claim to cherish “democracy” Dems sure do hate our justice system that makes any form of democracy possible.
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
10154 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 7:29 am to
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Why lie?


Same question I ask about you. You're the most retarded lawyer I've ever witnessed or your a liar. Which is it?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
441689 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 7:30 am to
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Same question I ask about you. You're the most retarded lawyer I've ever witnessed or your a liar. Which is it?


I see we are beyond strawmen and are at the "completely making shite up" point of the thread
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
117007 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 7:39 am to
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This only works if he pardons himself, too.


Or someone else does.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
117007 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 7:40 am to
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You're the most retarded lawyer I've ever witnessed


You need to get out more. There are lawyers who are breathtakingly stupid, like every other profession. SFP is merely caught in an existential crisis.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
74305 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 7:43 am to
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This is the equivalent of MAGA calling non-pedos, pedos, for example.


If the shoe fits
Posted by SidewalkDawg
Chair
Member since Nov 2012
10089 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 7:44 am to
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SFP is merely caught in an existential crisis.


I think he just enjoys provoking emotional reactions from people who "feel" things they can't substantiate.

Take the "Lawfare" argument for example. Just define what lawfare is and argue over that. Instead people just like to assume what lawfare is and try arguing over it.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
117007 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 7:48 am to
No.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
441689 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 7:51 am to
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Or someone else does.

Fair enough, but I don't think Trump will (unless its part of a larger agreement, but then Trump should have pardoned ole Hunter).

After 4 years, Biden is going to be pudding and/or dead.
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