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re: More American women are single than ever before—and it’s costing them big money

Posted on 8/21/25 at 10:11 am to
Posted by Grumpy Nemesis
Member since Feb 2025
2033 posts
Posted on 8/21/25 at 10:11 am to
quote:


Can you link posts of his arguing that the wealth gap does exist?

ROFLMAO do you really think that sleight of hand was not obvious?

You know as well as I do that the argument is about the way the gap that doesn't really exist.
Posted by Grumpy Nemesis
Member since Feb 2025
2033 posts
Posted on 8/21/25 at 10:12 am to
The idea that Society doesn't value women today is so fricking retarded even you should be embarrassed. I mean I know you're incapable of being embarrassed but you should be
Posted by SantaFe
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
7855 posts
Posted on 8/21/25 at 10:25 am to
Big point that was missed is that a majority of single women cannot,or will not, do simple maintenance tasks such as -

1.Checking oil/engine coolant in their vehicles.
2.Checking tire pressure.
3.Changing wiper blades.
4.Changing a flat tire.
5. Changing HVAC filter.
6.Repairing small plumbing problems such as leaking faucet or bad toilet
float.
7.Taking out the trash.
8.Returning garbage can from the street curb.
9.Grocery shopping.
10. Cooking a meal.
11.Washing dishes.
12.Washing/drying clothes.
13.Washing/vacuum a car.
14.Mowing the lawn.
15.Cranking a lawnmower.
16.Changing a dead car battery.

Sure there are many women that can do these things.

There are some women who will pay to have these things done for them.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61443 posts
Posted on 8/21/25 at 10:29 am to
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You know as well as I do that the argument is about the way the gap that doesn't really exist.



I made a comment of disbelief that NC_Tigah posted this article. Whatever you're ranting about has nothing to do with that.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61443 posts
Posted on 8/21/25 at 10:31 am to
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The idea that Society doesn't value women today is so fricking retarded even you should be embarrassed.


I know you have a lot of big feelings about this, but do you have anything of susbtance to contribute? Other than me being stupid, retarded, a count, etc. what other evidence do you have that society values women and children?
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
19821 posts
Posted on 8/21/25 at 10:31 am to
quote:

The choice of field of employment has consequences in that mix.

Yeah. They can't understand that a Bachelor's Degree in Education is not the same as a Bachelor's Degree in Chemical Engineering.
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
5715 posts
Posted on 8/21/25 at 10:35 am to
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4cubbies


You are the poster child for ending women’s suffrage.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139046 posts
Posted on 8/21/25 at 10:40 am to
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Society doesn't value women or children. Period.
WOW!

Given the #BelieveHer nonsense, MyBodyMyChoice, DEI initiatives, etc., any assertion that US society doesn't value women is absurd.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61443 posts
Posted on 8/21/25 at 10:45 am to
Women in the United States continue to earn significantly less than men. This persistent pay inequity demonstrates that women’s labor is not valued as much as men’s labor. Likewise, the unpaid labor of caregiving, which is primarily performed by women, remains largely invisible in economic metrics such as GDP, even though it is essential to social and economic functioning. In fact, women are often scolded for prioritizing caring for their children. You can see it play out in many discussions about the gender pay gap: women are often criticized for spending time away from work to tend to their children. I have never seen anyone acknowledge that if women weren’t taking time away from work to care for their children, fathers would have to.

The devaluation of women is also evident in health outcomes. The United States has one of the highest maternal mortality rates among wealthy nations. This disparity points to systemic neglect of women’s health needs. Additionally, women have been underrepresented in medical research since the advent of medical research. For decades, male researchers published scientific articles based exclusively on males (human or animal). Women continue to be omitted from are underrepresented in clinical trials, which leads to ineffective or potentially harmful treatments for women who are physiologically and biologically different from men.

Children are similarly devalued in economic terms: child poverty rates in the U.S. are among the highest in the industrialized world, and policy efforts to reduce them, such as summer SNAP benefits, are met with absolute disdain by a large segment of society.

While politicians often claim to “support families,” public investment in affordable childcare, paid parental leave, and early education remains minimal compared to other industrialized nations. These policy choices reflect priorities centered around economic efficiency and profit over the well-being of women and children. The arguments often made questioning why any business should care that a woman employee had a baby only reinforces my statement that society doesn’t value women or children.
Posted by theballguy
HSV (Dealing only in satire)
Member since Oct 2011
37317 posts
Posted on 8/21/25 at 10:47 am to
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all this crap falls on deaf ears with me because in my world women are specifically paid more than men for doing the same job.



Stepped into it yet coming out smelling like a rose
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5817 posts
Posted on 8/21/25 at 10:54 am to
quote:

Unless you're willing to admit that women hold no ability to make this determinization in a significant number of 


Wrong. Women are still constituents in those states. They do in fact have a say. Maybe the majority of them thought the unborn infant deserved more of a say than in other states.
This post was edited on 8/21/25 at 10:57 am
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5817 posts
Posted on 8/21/25 at 10:55 am to
quote:

Women in the United States continue to earn significantly less than men. This persistent pay inequity demonstrates that women’s labor is not valued as much as men’s labor. Likewise, the unpaid labor of caregiving, which is primarily performed by women, remains largely invisible in economic metrics such as GDP, even though it is essential to social and economic functioning. In fact, women are often scolded for prioritizing caring for their children. You can see it play out in many discussions about the gender pay gap: women are often criticized for spending time away from work to tend to their children. I have never seen anyone acknowledge that if women weren’t taking time away from work to care for their children, fathers would have to.

The devaluation of women is also evident in health outcomes. The United States has one of the highest maternal mortality rates among wealthy nations. This disparity points to systemic neglect of women’s health needs. Additionally, women have been underrepresented in medical research since the advent of medical research. For decades, male researchers published scientific articles based exclusively on males (human or animal). Women continue to be omitted from are underrepresented in clinical trials, which leads to ineffective or potentially harmful treatments for women who are physiologically and biologically different from men.

Children are similarly devalued in economic terms: child poverty rates in the U.S. are among the highest in the industrialized world, and policy efforts to reduce them, such as summer SNAP benefits, are met with absolute disdain by a large segment of society.

While politicians often claim to “support families,” public investment in affordable childcare, paid parental leave, and early education remains minimal compared to other industrialized nations. These policy choices reflect priorities centered around economic efficiency and profit over the well-being of women and children. The arguments often made questioning why any business should care that a woman employee had a baby only reinforces my statement that society doesn’t value women or children.


Word salad based on a false premises that allowed you to let your hatred of men show.
This post was edited on 8/21/25 at 10:57 am
Posted by JackieTreehorn
Member since Sep 2013
35576 posts
Posted on 8/21/25 at 10:57 am to
After experiencing a few months on dating apps I can see why.
Posted by Grumpy Nemesis
Member since Feb 2025
2033 posts
Posted on 8/21/25 at 11:07 am to
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I know you have a lot of big feelings about this, but do you have anything of susbtance to contribute? Other than me being stupid, retarded, a count, etc. what other evidence do you have that society values women and children?

I save substance for people whose primary goal isn't to just duck, dodge and lie in the goes of pissing people off. Sorry
Posted by Grumpy Nemesis
Member since Feb 2025
2033 posts
Posted on 8/21/25 at 11:08 am to
quote:

4cubbies
Women in the United States continue to earn significantly less than men
lie
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61443 posts
Posted on 8/21/25 at 11:14 am to
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Word salad based on a false premises that allowed you to let your hatred of men show.



Your post from the previous page:

quote:

I would love to see you prove this statement.



I proceeded to make a good faith argument only for you to plug your ears and essentially say "la la la la la you hate men"
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61443 posts
Posted on 8/21/25 at 11:16 am to
quote:

I save substance for people whose primary goal isn't to just duck, dodge and lie in the goes of pissing people off. Sorry



Maybe one day we'll get to see a substantive post of yours here. Until then, I guess we're stuck with your flaming trolls.
This post was edited on 8/21/25 at 11:17 am
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13567 posts
Posted on 8/21/25 at 11:50 am to
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This applies to everything. If you act within the bounds of the law, you are not punished. If you break the law, you are held accountable.


See, this is what I'm talking about in responding in bad faith.

It's very obvious that a society's values are reflected in their laws, which was the point of my post. You know this, because you try to use it further down in your post, but here you act as though you're clueless about it.

quote:

What another example of the child's entire worth being determined by his/her mother?


What the hell other example do I need beyond his or her life? That seems to cover all the rest of them. doesn't it?

quote:

12 states have total abortion bans, including the state in which I live.


And all that means is that 12 states care more about children than the federal government did for several decades.

But don't look now...by implication you are using the basis of laws reflecting values here after acting clueless about it above, AND you're now arguing that the US government is moving in the direction of valuing and protecting the lives of children after your initial statement was that society doesn't care about children. (That last was I think was you walking into the side of a door. I don't think that one was intentional.)

quote:

What other circumstances allow for women to determine whether a human lives of dies legally?


Again, explain to me how that matters to this discussion and I will answer the question.

I can name several things in society that favor women over men (like the topic we're currently discussing...men get no say in this, only women), does that mean your original statement is false?

Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
19501 posts
Posted on 8/21/25 at 11:53 am to
quote:

The idea that Society doesn't value women today is so fricking retarded even you should be embarrassed


That poster doesn't really believe that. Just trolling for reactions
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
13871 posts
Posted on 8/21/25 at 11:55 am to
They’ll be okay. They’re strong, independent women who don’t need no man… or “toxic masculinity.”

This is what they wanted.
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