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re: More American women are single than ever before—and it’s costing them big money

Posted on 8/21/25 at 7:34 pm to
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61453 posts
Posted on 8/21/25 at 7:34 pm to
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That bothers you doesn't it?


No. I just have no idea what any of that has to do with anything I’ve posted or discussed in this thread.

Posted by liz18lsu
Member since Feb 2009
18042 posts
Posted on 8/21/25 at 7:37 pm to
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No. I just have no idea what any of that has to do with anything I’ve posted or discussed in this thread.


You talked about disparity in pay between men and women. You have been called out several times.

I asked if you had experienced it, firsthand, and how would you even know if someone was paid more than you. You decided to ignore those questions.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61453 posts
Posted on 8/21/25 at 7:40 pm to
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You talked about disparity in pay between men and women. You have been called out several times.


Did you read the OP? Obviously not but that’s the claim in the OP. So, I discussed the OP.


quote:

I asked if you had experienced it, firsthand, and how would you even know if someone was paid more than you. You decided to ignore those questions.


The author who made that claim cited their evidence in the article. You should consider reading the OP before commenting in a thread.
This post was edited on 8/21/25 at 7:41 pm
Posted by liz18lsu
Member since Feb 2009
18042 posts
Posted on 8/21/25 at 7:45 pm to
From the OP

quote:

Single women earn a median income of $51,168, while single men make $70,525.


I ask you again - your experience with sex & wage discrimination.
This post was edited on 8/21/25 at 7:46 pm
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61453 posts
Posted on 8/21/25 at 7:50 pm to
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Would you like to be "overrepresented" in a thalidomide study?


A study could have prevented so much grief and tragedy.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61453 posts
Posted on 8/21/25 at 7:52 pm to
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I ask you again - your experience with sex & wage discrimination


I don’t compare my earnings to the earnings of others.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61453 posts
Posted on 8/21/25 at 7:57 pm to
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Women CEO's destroyed Yahoo, HP, IBM, etc when in charge. Had to hire Men to clean up the mess they created.
Women CEOs saved GM, CVS, Advanced Micro Devices, etc.

Women are people. People succeed and fail. Men are also people. They, too, succeed and fail. This isn’t some battle of the sexes.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
20121 posts
Posted on 8/21/25 at 8:05 pm to
I don’t see anything in the OP that I would question…however I think the inference that this is due to some systemic sexism and this isn’t the case.

I’ve been in the corporate world for 25 years and income is based on:
The profession chosen (Ie decisions)
Performance at that profession over time
Aggressiveness in pushing for increased wages/promotions OR the amount it takes to hire a person to come on board or keep them

Thats it and it’s been shown men and women approach these differently.

As far as wealth goes, that builds based on excess income that can be saved. Dual income with combined expenses is best, higher individual income is better. Simple.

ETA: my industry aligns with healthcare and some of the most highly paid high powered people I’ve worked with as peers and clients have been women. I’ve gone from having an old bitter client mgr complaining to me in my office about our company “glass ceiling” to a national call of division leaders the same day that’s almost all women.
This post was edited on 8/21/25 at 8:21 pm
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22765 posts
Posted on 8/21/25 at 8:06 pm to
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While that’s troubling, the Fed’s data includes both women who have never married, as well as those who divorced and may have commingled assets at some point. The St. Louis Fed’s research finds that single women who never married have a lower net worth of about $0.71 cents per one dollar compared to the median never-married man’s wealth, or a wealth penalty of about 29%. The picture gets even more bleak for single women with children.


lol @ "wealth penalty"

Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61453 posts
Posted on 8/21/25 at 8:11 pm to
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What was the source(s), btw?


It’s mostly common knowledge. A few things I’ve studied in my academic pursuits. Someone in my cohort at school is writing his dissertation on maternal mortality and I’ve sat through at least 5 presentations by him about it (mostly while I was pregnant coincidentally).

I did google studies about women being excluded from medical research to confirm my assumption, though.
This post was edited on 8/21/25 at 8:13 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139056 posts
Posted on 8/21/25 at 11:11 pm to
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NOW DO THE CDC!
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I linked the CDC website I pulled that text from
Then you either misread it, or they lied.

Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139056 posts
Posted on 8/21/25 at 11:45 pm to
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Women CEOs saved GM
Mary Barra is an effing imbecile.

True story:
During a CNBC interview in Detroit, Barra was promoting GM's fabulous "green" electric car strategy with a goal of selling only EVs by 2035. The reporter (knowing Detroit uses coal-fired plants to produce electricity) rhetorically asked her where the electricity came from. She pointed to a frigging electrical outlet! He said "no, I meant what is the source of electricity?" She looked at him quizzically, then pointed out the window and said "Well ... there's wires ... it gets .... it comes, you know, through wires."

So while her goal of selling only EVs by 2035 now is visible as utter idiocy, one truth remains. Electricity still comes through wires, by golly.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
7969 posts
Posted on 8/21/25 at 11:51 pm to
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Mary Barra is an effing imbecile.

They sucked up so much govt money during the EV push.
They bought Cruise and ran it into the ground.
They sold off much of their foreign operations.

No one saved GM but the government.
They are still clueless and floundering.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
41563 posts
Posted on 8/22/25 at 6:26 am to
Women make more money in plenty of things.

Modeling
Pornography
Bartending
Stripping
Sales, especially pharma

This doesn't even begin to touch the growing number of fields that are almost exclusively hiring women. Education, Healthcare, and business that engages in DEI.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61453 posts
Posted on 8/22/25 at 6:54 am to
Can you tell you me what your complaint is? Is it that you don’t think a post-partum mother’s death should be counted in maternal mortality rates? Are you only Wanting mothers who die in active labor counted?

And you’re claiming every other western country calculates maternal mortality the way you want the US to calculate it (only active labor deaths?)
Posted by StreamsOfWhiskey
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Jun 2013
922 posts
Posted on 8/22/25 at 7:15 am to
Can’t say whether they’re paid differently than men, but I can say that just about every promotion I’ve seen in my company has women moving up into the GM level by a factor of 3-1 than men. In fact the business unit I work in, the president and the GMs are all women.

I work for a major.
This post was edited on 8/22/25 at 7:16 am
Posted by Kikicaca
1 Mile from the Atchafalaya
Member since Nov 2016
2386 posts
Posted on 8/22/25 at 7:35 am to
Wait a minute, what wonnen are we talking about? Liberal or conservative women?. Don't dare lump conservative women in with this



Geez can't understand why red blooded successful American men are not tripping over each other to marry these beauties.

This post was edited on 8/22/25 at 7:42 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139056 posts
Posted on 8/22/25 at 7:39 am to
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Can you tell you me what your complaint is?
The claim that Maternal Care in Canada, the EU, the UK, or Australia is better than the US, much less 2-3 times better is complete total bullshite. That is not a "complaint." It is a simple fact.

As with Covid, where the US government counted a man shot in the head with a coincident Covid+ test as a "Covid death" resulting in a far worse CV19 outcome profile for the US, they are doing the same here. They do the same in virtually every such comparison with other healthcare systems. Infant mortality stats are another example.

The game afoot is to socialize American medicine. Socialization would not be done for the good of the populace. Rather it would be done to limit the cost of caring for the populace. Even at the expense of far worse care, outcome, and inconvenience.

Obviously no one would electively choose worse care, outcome, and inconvenience. Nor would anyone elect to substitute any EU healthcare system for our own, if they knew what that substitution actually involved. So the only way to get there is to falsely convince folks the grass is greener in the other yard (which is actually asphalt, spray painted green).

Additionally, the socialized, government-owned medical systems are HIGHLY politically invested in exaggerating the quality of their care. So every one of these US vs the world healthcare comparators is loaded with apples and oranges juxtapositions.

quote:

And you’re claiming every other western country calculates maternal mortality the way you want the US to calculate it
I could not care less how it is calculated, as long as the calculations are identical apples-to-apples comparisons.
This post was edited on 8/22/25 at 7:42 am
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
20425 posts
Posted on 8/22/25 at 7:42 am to
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Women face not only a gender wage gap in the U.S.—earning about $0.83 per dollar to men—but they also run up against a wealth gap too.

I have to believe that the Onlyfans whores are going to eventually cause an equal, or more, average compensation with the men. Remember, it’s undefeated.
Posted by suavecito80
Member since Apr 2014
3322 posts
Posted on 8/22/25 at 8:20 am to
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Probably not in the obesity or mental ones. Or pregnancy, uterine deformities/malignancies, breast cancer (even though men can get it too).

Why do you want to MAKE EXCUSES for women? We made it. Did you not realize that?

We have so much equal opportunity we can stomp all over men, ruin a male college kid's life with rape allegations! Hooray for feminism!

Guess what, my vows included obedience to my husband, because the Bible teaches women, no matter how successful, that we are to submit. We are born of a nature, and society is trying to wipe the blackboard clean. Sorry, it's permanant and indelible.


Can you give a class to women so they can try to understand what you are saying? This is spot on. Your husband is a very lucky man for real.
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