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re: Mom arrested in rural GA because her near 11 year old son was found walking alone

Posted on 11/23/24 at 10:11 am to
Posted by cattus
Member since Jan 2009
15951 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 10:11 am to
Maybe I wasn't but I like to think I was the first to call him that many years ago. It fits perfectly.

He talks of the 80s but he'd really hate the 70s. I had 3 jobs before 10 and was often not back till late at night. My friends all had freedom.
This post was edited on 11/23/24 at 10:13 am
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
11163 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 10:24 am to
I used to do this all the time during the summers

Would walk a half mile to store and grab lunch occasionally
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
38029 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 10:29 am to
Around 1990 when I had just recently hit double digits in age, myself and all my friends would wake up super early just to run around town and find each other and either just hang out walking around or go exploring the woods or fishing or wading around in the creeks. Maybe we might take an hour to go to a friend's house and play Super Nintendo before getting bored and leaving again.

We had some older ladies all around town that would always see us coming and bring us out sweet tea and homemade cookies. About 1000 people total in town and everyone pretty much treated everyone else like family, especially kids.

We had to check in with our parents around lunch time and again before the street lights came on, and those were the only ground rules. If our parents needed to find us, they'd just make a couple phone calls to the older women around town who would be able to tell them exactly where we were. Those were the best times ever. I think I lived my childhood at the very end of a really great era that is unfortunately gone forever.
Posted by FinkyStinger
Georgia
Member since Jan 2009
2204 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 10:35 am to
What they are really saying is, we don’t keep the community safe enough for your children to walk alone, so you must keep them locked away.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 10:37 am to
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We had some older ladies all around town that would always see us coming and bring us out sweet tea and homemade cookies. About 1000 people total in town and everyone pretty much treated everyone else like family, especially kids.


Neighborhoods were the strong point of cities back in the day. You had generations of folks who stayed in the same place and put down roots, and all knew each other on some level.

Its not like that anymore. Everyone constantly thinks they have to upgrade.
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
21907 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 10:37 am to
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Not sure I understand. How?

Cell phones and helicopter parenting have moved the gates of adulthood to the right.

They are glued to phones and social media apps. They don't have the drive or need to get out to connect with other kids. The % of kids who don't ride bikes or venture off to explore at young ages, fight to get their liscense on their 16th birthdays, or move out as soon as they can are drastically high compared to 20-30 years ago. Those were rights of passage and a sense of freedom.

Cell phones and social media provide the personalized contact and escape that the wall phone in the living room stretched out to the corner of the room didn't afford. There is goodness in that. But, it also keeps kids inside doing just that all of the time.

Add in the helicopter parent factor, and it has created kids who don't mind their parents dropping them off with friends in tow at 17 years old.

There is less face to face contact. There is less drive for independence. There is less drive to adventure, explore, and learn life lessons. It's part of why the millennial to Gen Z as a whole can't handle the curveballs that life will throw at them. It's a part of US tradition to keep moving forward as soon as possible, accept the struggle if it leads to independence, innovation and growth.

I love my kids. I have a 22 yr old out of the home, college educated and doing well. A 19 year old away from home and in college. And, a 14 year old, new age latch key kid himself. I've hovered myself at times and see the effect of some of that now. But, kids need to get out. Kids need face to face communication skills. Kids need difficulty in their lives. They don't need 24/7 monitoring at 11 or a screen glued to their face. Just my opinion
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 10:42 am to
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Cell phones and helicopter parenting have moved the gates of adulthood to the right.


Social media scares people with irrational fears as well.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
76521 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 10:43 am to
I know. We all saw the new Jaguar promo!
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63087 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 10:46 am to
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I mean, bum frick Egypt towns in Louisiana are usually bad places, so don’t call me crazy for saying I wouldn’t let my kids walk alone to town.


There are places nobody should go.

That’s not what we are talking about.

It absolutely is bad parenting if you can’t let an 11 yo kid leave your sight.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
75395 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 10:49 am to
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Well, I never said I think it’s illegal, I just think it’s bad parenting. I mean, bum frick Egypt towns in Louisiana are usually bad places, so don’t call me crazy for saying I wouldn’t let my kids walk alone to town.


This was in the mountains of North Georgia, the demographics are very very different than more typical southern BFE's.

It's very Vermont-like, but conservative instead of liberal.


The entire population of the town is 223. It's smaller than fictional Mayberry. Yes, everyone knows everyone. Probably the safest town in America to let a 10 year old run free. More likely to be snatched by a sasquatch than caught up in any other mess.

Edit again- to echo what another poster said, the Karen who called it in very likely has a vendetta against the family. And the way the government is treating her, I'm wondering if she hasn't made trouble at a city council meeting in the past, or otherwise pissed off the backwoods barney fifedom.
This post was edited on 11/23/24 at 11:45 am
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
21907 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 10:49 am to
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Social media scares people with irrational fears as well.

100%. Could you have imagined it if media coverage and connectivity were the same in the 80s and 90s as today? The serial killer coverage and still existing cold cases alone would have crippled our youth and growth experience.

@moneyg
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There are places nobody should go.

That’s not what we are talking about.

It absolutely is bad parenting if you can’t let an 11 yo kid leave your sight.


And all of this. You know your neighborhood if you live there. The situation doesn't sound as if it was negligent or uncommon.
This post was edited on 11/23/24 at 10:53 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 10:51 am to
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100%. Could you have imagined it if media coverage and connectivity were the same in the 80s and 90s as today?


Yep. I wouldnt trade my "free range" childhood for anything. It was how kids are supposed to be.

I will say I was more cautious with my kids than my parents were. I regret that.
This post was edited on 11/23/24 at 10:52 am
Posted by CharlesUFarley
Daphne, AL
Member since Jan 2022
1107 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 10:51 am to
Georgia Law Enforcement has manpower and resources to do sh!t like this, but couldn't keep Laken Riley's murderer away from the UGA campus?

Thin Blue Line?
This post was edited on 11/23/24 at 10:52 am
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
35332 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 11:00 am to
At 11, I was riding my bike l over town and roamed vast swathes of woods.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
35332 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 11:02 am to
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don’t think that’s very good parenting tbh.


That’s your takeaway? If I disagree with your parenting style, may I have you arrested?

And yet there are states requiring one parent to “allow” his (usually) child to be castrated.
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 11:03 am to
We’d cross the River on a ferry at 11 with no means of communication.
I can pull up the find my iPhone app or text my kids at will.

This is absurd.
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
21907 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 11:10 am to
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At 11, I was riding my bike l over town and roamed vast swathes of woods

I grew up in a rural area, but it was a subdivision without about 20 homes and surrounded by miles of country.

We weren't even allowed in the home during the summers because the group of boys were like locusts who eat your pantry and fridge clean if you let them. My grandmother would bring me and my brother a sandwich out at lunch and we had a garden hose.

We only had to check in when the porch lights went off or when my dad whistled, which could be heard for a mile

If we had 16 acres of land this time of year in that part of the country, no squirrel would have been safe. They would have tracked me down in the woods with a .22 in my hands. Could you imagine the Karen's today? She would be in the state pen next week.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
47197 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 11:17 am to
Wow. That’s an answer.

I’ll agree with the helicopter parent part. That’s valid.

But my main point was that if you’re gonna give a kid a phone at that younger age, it should be something stripped down without the social media apps, or web capabilities. It’s just a phone basically.

As a kid gets older and wants to buy their own smart phone or maybe earn it through good grades? That’s probably a case by case basis.

But I didn’t get my own phone until I was in my 30’s. Somebody wanted to talk to me and I was away, I might check my messages and then call them back - eventually . That’s how it used to work.
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
21907 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 11:32 am to
I remember having to have plans and contingency plans when out with friends and you seperated at the mall or were to meet up anywhere in town.

It hit me in the face how much the world and myself changed about a decade ago. We were at Disneyland. My wife took the boy back to the hotel and I took the girls to California Adventure. My phone died. And, all I could think was, "well, I guess we'll catch up with mom tonight."

In reality, I just had them ride their favorite ride continuously until mom found us. But, the lesson learned was that we simply don't plan anymore.

When is the last time you bought a Rand McNally? The first job when visiting a new town used to be popping in the gas station and getting a city map off of the carousel rack.

Ordering pizza in the 80s was literally telling the driver to take the third road past the huge oak tree . It was amazing they ever got it there in 30 mins or less.

I'm not a luddite by any means, but the tech and social media generation does come at a cost. That cost shouldn't be the state affecting small town lives and norms. What happened to this mother is inexcusable.

Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26524 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 11:43 am to
Arrest the county officials for violation of her civil rights for their idiot nanny state overreach.

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