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re: Mississippi and Louisiana 4th and 8th grade scores ahead of NY and CA

Posted on 4/28/25 at 4:28 pm to
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 4/28/25 at 4:28 pm to
Why only 4th and 8th grade scores being reported?
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 4/28/25 at 4:30 pm to
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Why only 4th and 8th grade scores being reported?


Those are the years where they do the main tests.
Posted by Chief One Word
Eastern Washington State
Member since Mar 2018
4254 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 4:32 pm to
The school system where you have lots of illegals should be declared education disaster areas.
Posted by TheBeezer
Texas
Member since Apr 2013
1982 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 4:36 pm to
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What did Tim Walz say? It's beautiful to go into a school and have 50 different languages being spoken? Something like that. But all that means is no one can effectively communicate with each other


Isn't that how the tower of Babel was brought down?
Posted by mikesliveisacheater
Member since Nov 2009
1355 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 4:38 pm to
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Would be interesting to see a study only involving US citizens. CA and NY's numbers are skewed by all the illegals that don't speak English


Yeah, but California should get a bump from all of the Asian kids they have. If my racial stereotype math skills are correct, Asian kids cancel out illegal non-English speaking kids.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
26335 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 4:43 pm to
WOW
Posted by NussBusDriver
Mississippi
Member since Sep 2024
153 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 7:49 am to
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private school students in louisiana aren't required to take the state test. only students at schools that receive public money are required to take the state test.


Would be interested to see the difference if the privates took the test. Don't think it would be good for public schools.
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
10137 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 7:51 am to
Probably bc so many can’t speak English in NY & CA
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
44977 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 7:51 am to
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CA and NY's numbers are skewed by all the illegals that don't speak English.


Accommodations are usually given for ESL students.

Those usually include a bilingual dictionary, extra time, translated directions and more.
This post was edited on 4/29/25 at 7:53 am
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42338 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 8:01 am to
This is bad for Louisiana!!!

Signed,

4chubbies
Posted by Jay Quest
Once removed from Massachusetts
Member since Nov 2009
10688 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 8:03 am to
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CA and NY's numbers are skewed by all the illegals that don't speak English.

Demographics aren't Louisiana and Mississippi's friend either.
Posted by Lightning
Texas
Member since May 2014
3118 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 8:11 am to
What that “adjusted” score actually means:
quote:

So, if Mississippi is not first overall, how is it first on this adjusted score table?

Each year, the Urban Institute takes into account the states with the most poverty. It specifically looks at students affected by this, as they have historically suffered academically due to outside stressors. Urban Institute then compares students nationwide who are the same gender, age, and race or ethnicity and have the same free and reduced-price lunch receipt status, special education status, and English language learner status to similar students in Mississippi.


Wealthier and whiter states have loved to look down on the “dumb peasants” in the south but they refuse to acknowledge the role demographics play.
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
8340 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 8:30 am to
I refuse to believe this.

The education industry plays fast and loose with interpreting test scores. Whatever "NAEP-adjusted" means, there's your answer I'd bet, yet some people on this board take it as the gospel just because it's in an embedded tweet, and you're not allowed to post an embedded tweet if it's false or misleading.
Posted by BuckeyeGoon
Member since Jan 2025
958 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 8:32 am to
Its interesting how liberals love to make fun of southern states, particularly alabama, mississippi, and louisiana, but they never address the fact that those states have a much higher percentage of black people than the rest of the country. If you removed all the poor black people, these states would likely all shoot up in the rankings for education, health, crime, etc.
Posted by Bigdawgb
Member since Oct 2023
3427 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 8:52 am to
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What did Tim Walz say? It's beautiful to go into a school and have 50 different languages being spoken? Something like that. But all that means is no one can effectively communicate with each other.


50 ways to call Waltz a putta
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
6780 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 8:55 am to
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Leading Report is an American fake news website and Twitter account that describes itself as a "leading source for breaking news".
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55429 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 8:56 am to
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The education industry plays fast and loose with interpreting test scores. Whatever "NAEP-adjusted" means, there's your answer I'd bet, yet some people on this board take it as the gospel just because it's in an embedded tweet,


Groomer doesn't read the thread then posts the obvious.

Yes, we have acknowledged that numbers are fudged to protect your fellow voters, dumbass.
Posted by mikeytig
NE of Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2007
7741 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 9:01 am to
Our Supt of Education here- Dr. Cade Brumley is a superstar. The Trump administration has taken note and the Sec of Dept of Education - Linda McMahon- will be coming here within the next two weeks to visit and meet with him.
Posted by Yewkindewit
Near Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Apr 2012
21628 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 9:02 am to
Somebody is lying eh?
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17344 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 9:03 am to
What is NAEP mean?

Good for Louisiana and Mississippi....but if that means they are not counting all the failed schools, it's not really meaningful.

That said - we all knew that better public school districts and the private schools offer a solid experience in Louisiana. California and New York have a lot of suburban districts whose demographics lift their overall scores too.

It's the poorly run, crappy urban districts rural districts that are huge failures in Louisiana because they can't overcome the burden of being driven by special interests.
This post was edited on 4/29/25 at 9:06 am
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