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re: Minneapolis shooter confessed he was ‘tired of being trans’

Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:29 am to
Posted by stout
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Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:29 am to
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The consensus here seems to be that further excluding and dehumanizing trans people will cause them to be come well-adjusted and productive members of society.



Im not part of that. I think they should be in institutions and can not be part of a healthy functioning society
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:29 am to
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GTFO . Everyone fricking hates you here. Take your 2 million posts and shove them up your arse. Go infect another thread. You sick frick. At least he loved his family , right?


Dude you’re just bullying now. Why don’t you take your anger and write in a diary or something.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:30 am to
Kurt Cobain whined that he wasn’t gay.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467277 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:30 am to
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If someone does not have faith, does not believe in marriage, does not believe in having children, what exactly is their purpose in life?



I think it goes beyond this and they don't see a future. Now depression probably plays a role in that, too. A future of pain and suffering and no happiness doesn't seem like a great time. But this is speculating on a more general topic.

Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46246 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:31 am to
He asked his mother to transition to female as a teen. He wasn’t hiding his crazy from anyone. They were just too pickled by liberal lies to act.
Posted by Old Character
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:31 am to
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yes- and with the current political climate he was told he was normal and do deal with it by becoming a women.


This is the very clear and simple truth
Posted by Dirk Dawgler
Georgia
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:32 am to
Agreed. Trans is associated with mental illness, and is but one symptom of mental illness… always. Thus, you agree that trans=mental illness. Finally agree with you on something. You aren’t as ignorant as I had you pegged to be.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:32 am to
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Exactly. I would argue with full confidence that it would make it worse.


It doesn't apply to this specific case, but the exclusion/dehumanization seems to be directly related to other violence by trans people.

It's a gordian knot, to an extent.

I think if we ignored it, the oxygen would leave the fire, to to speak, and it would become less of a social symbol, dying out naturally.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
17680 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:32 am to
They should be "excluded" from the rest of society, they can't function normally. That's a fact. However they shouldn't be bullied, but they do have to be institutionalized.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:32 am to
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He asked his mother to transition to female as a teen. He wasn’t hiding his crazy from anyone. They were just too pickled by liberal lies to act.


I pointed this out earlier and it was ignored

What I said:

Sociopaths are good at hiding to a point. I doubt he hid them as well as you think he did but instead his mom buried the thought of it because she didn't want to accept the fact that he was mentally ill. Encouraging him to become trans, which is now widely accepted and encouraged, was a much easier path for her.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:33 am to
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Why do you think this is important?

If he's crazy and acts erratically in the future, would you discuss his issues with the original crazy or the manifestations of that crazy?

clearly the original factor causing the temporary manifestations.

Posted by stout
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Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:33 am to
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However they shouldn't be bullied,


I really don't care if they are bullied

I would also think that in some cases, especially when they are young enough, bullying can snap them out of their delusions or brainwashing from their parents.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154791 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:34 am to
If only leftists could ignore it. Instead they hype it.
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
11040 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:34 am to
Just curious. Why do you assume the influence is only coming from the parents?

The dad was a church employee. So it’s not like they were promoting anti-religious beliefs in their household.
This post was edited on 8/28/25 at 9:38 am
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
17680 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:35 am to
They applaud it. They applaud the murders as well.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297665 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:35 am to
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The consensus here seems to be that further excluding and dehumanizing trans people will cause them to be come well-adjusted and productive members of society.


"Affirming" a child's radical fantasy is the epitome of dehumanizing. We as adults are supposed to guide children, not allow them to destroy themselves.

We are the "catcher in the rye," but instead of catching them, we are encouraging their demise.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467277 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:36 am to
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If only leftists could ignore it. Instead they hype it.


It's become warfare of the poles, I agree. Neither is backing down anytime soon.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109762 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:36 am to
To me it seems the problem is a lot of these kids may be turning to “becoming trans” to mask other issues and then we crate a framework where we can’t say this trans stuff is a manifestation of other underlying psychological issues. Hence, the trap this kid got himself caught up in.

Notice how nobody is asserting there was a lack of “resources” for this kid to get help - there obviously were for this family. It’s that a framework was created whereby it was all but impossible once he went the trans route.

We have to be able to recognize that as a big problem.
Posted by Old Character
Member since Jan 2018
1513 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:36 am to
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The consensus here seems to be that further excluding and dehumanizing trans people will cause them to be come well-adjusted and productive members of society.


You feel that everyone, with a little love and understanding, will be a contributing member of society. Some people are just never going to achieve that. So yes, sometimes we should tell little Billy to untuck his dick, put on some pants and try to fricking act right. If he can’t you get him some real psychiatric help,
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154791 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:37 am to
bullshite. If the left ignored it it wouldn’t be an issue. You know they put this shite I. Everyone’s faces and you even know where it is coming from. Stop with Muh both sides shite.
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