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re: Mike Pence comes out against the SAVE Act saying this is a state issue

Posted on 2/5/26 at 10:26 pm to
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
10641 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 10:26 pm to
Why would you want illegal aliens voting in American elections? I truly want to understand.
Posted by Richleau
Member since Dec 2018
4424 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 10:36 pm to
He’s such a piece of shite.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
49845 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 10:38 pm to
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Mike Pence comes out against the SAVE Act saying this is a state issue


How much did they pay you, you little bought-and-paid-for corrupt Political Establishment bitch?

I need to move to El Salvador. I've had enough of this dirty shite.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
11342 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 11:24 pm to
He's so principled that he's willing to let our right to representation through fair elections be trampled. That takes guts.
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
7120 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 11:29 pm to
That a-hole was a straight up traitor.
Posted by BHTiger
Charleston
Member since Dec 2017
9212 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 11:42 pm to
It isnt a state issue when it determines the biggest federal position we have.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13422 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 11:46 pm to
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Federal elections are a state issue?



Yes.

And no.

State's authority is primary, but can be superseded by Congress.

It's very clear, actually, for Senators and Representatives. Pence is either FOS or very ignorant.

quote:

Article I, Section 4, Clause 1 of the Constitution:

“The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of choosing Senators.”


For POTUS, not so clear. Because states don't send raw votes to D.C., they send electors, and there is no text (that I am aware of) that lays out the regulatory authority the way it lays it out for Congress.

However, the legal standard should be that the authority should be assumed to follow the same chain of authority unless otherwise specified (which it is not).
This post was edited on 2/5/26 at 11:52 pm
Posted by Floating Change Up
Member since Dec 2013
13022 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 11:47 pm to
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Pence wasn’t one of my favorite people but he’s right on some issues such as this. And he gained my respect and gratitude by abiding by the constitution and doing his duty by ratifying the election despite death threats from trump and his minions. He’ll be viewed as an American hero in the history books.


You can just tell people that you love sucking cock these days. No judgement. And definitely no need to use as many words that you just did.
Posted by This GUN for HIRE
Member since May 2022
6060 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 11:49 pm to
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Why would you want illegal aliens voting in American elections?


He's got to sleep on it.
Posted by M. A. Ryland
silver spring, MD
Member since Dec 2005
2145 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 11:54 pm to
" Laws Singed by Mayor Adams"

What ????
Posted by SNAP
Member since Nov 2025
245 posts
Posted on 2/6/26 at 12:01 am to
There are only a few fundamental purposes for government, and one of them is to insure the rights and privileges of citizens are not adversely affected by others, whether they are citizens or not. We have a right to our votes counting, to attaining proper representation, and not being offset by fraud. Preventing voting fraud and insuring every American's vote counts, and cannot be offset by an illegal vote, is an obligation of government, not a choice.

It's obvious that voting is only for citizens. Insuring citizenship is logical. You have to do it for a US passport. Why would you not do it in order to vote? Constitution lets Congress make laws where it deems them to be appropriate, regarding elections.

Article I
SECTION. 4
The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.

Article IV
SECTION. 4
The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.

A Republican Form of Government is one where the political power is held by the People, and they wield that power via elections, their votes.

So many examples where it's clearly obvious that citizenship is required for voting
?52 USC Subtitle I: Voting Rights
§10101. Voting rights
(1) All citizens of the United States who are otherwise qualified by law to vote at any election by the people in any State, Territory, district, county, city, parish, township, school district, municipality, or other territorial subdivision, shall be entitled and allowed to vote at all such elections...

14th Amendment makes it clear that rights and protections are for citizens

26th Amendment:
SECTION 1
The right of citizens of the United States, who are eighteen years of age or older, to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of age.
SECTION 2
The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

18 USC §611. Voting by aliens

(a) It shall be unlawful for any alien to vote in any election held solely or in part for the purpose of electing a candidate for the office of President, Vice President, Presidential elector, Member of the Senate, Member of the House of Representatives, Delegate from the District of Columbia, or Resident Commissioner, unless-

(1) the election is held partly for some other purpose;

(2) aliens are authorized to vote for such other purpose under a State constitution or statute or a local ordinance; and

(3) voting for such other purpose is conducted independently of voting for a candidate for such Federal offices, in such a manner that an alien has the opportunity to vote for such other purpose, but not an opportunity to vote for a candidate for any one or more of such Federal offices.


If you come here from another country, you are subject to the jurisdiction of that nation, not the US, and your presence in the US is thus unlawful. If you give birth to someone, that person cannot get citizenship because a person is not allowed to benefit or profit from criminal behavior, and bestowing US citizenship on a child, by way of illegal activity, is definitely a benefit and a profit, and it's forbidden in any reasonable system of justice.

Lastly, the nation was established for the People OF the United States, not the people who are merely IN the United States.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47562 posts
Posted on 2/6/26 at 12:05 am to
If we can’t get the cowards to support SAVE then there is really one path forward. Make life painful for states that won’t clean up their rolls, register illegals, or fail to follow their own election integrity laws. Lawsuits, pull funding, send in attorneys and poll watchers, etc.
This post was edited on 2/6/26 at 2:44 am
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19612 posts
Posted on 2/6/26 at 2:55 am to
So the idea is states get to run crooked elections that affect the entire country?

Also, if that's the idea, then explain why we already have federal election laws? If it's purely a state's rights argument, why are there federal election laws on the books already?
This post was edited on 2/6/26 at 2:57 am
Posted by GooseSix
Member since Jun 2012
22456 posts
Posted on 2/6/26 at 3:09 am to
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Pence wasn’t one of my favorite people but he’s right on some issues such as this. And he gained my respect and gratitude by abiding by the constitution and doing his duty by ratifying the election despite death threats from trump and his minions. He’ll be viewed as an American hero in the history books.


Found the retard..
Posted by RohanGonzales
Pronoun: Whatever
Member since Apr 2024
10590 posts
Posted on 2/6/26 at 4:51 am to
What a piece of shite.
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
12646 posts
Posted on 2/6/26 at 5:32 am to
If it is a state issue then let’s go back to where states implement their own rules for voting. Let’s go back to the days when the voting age was set by the states, had requirements to own property, pay a poll tax to vote, pass a literacy test to vote, etc.

All the SAVE act is requiring is a valid ID to vote and simple protections on early voting and post vote counting. Mike Pence has turned into CUCK Republican instead of a RINO.
Posted by captainFid
Never apologize to barbarism
Member since Dec 2014
10505 posts
Posted on 2/6/26 at 5:41 am to
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Hey Mike...there's a fly in your hair....



Beautiful work OAN, reminding us all of that moment when we realized Mike was dead-man-walking.
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
20366 posts
Posted on 2/6/26 at 5:41 am to
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What is it with Republicans in the Ohio River Valley? Kentucky, Indiana and Ohio all have a RINO problem.

It’s all the Northeast liberals slowly diffusing into the rest of the country, same as what California is doing out west.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44204 posts
Posted on 2/6/26 at 6:13 am to
quote:

Why would you want illegal aliens voting in American elections?


Clark14 hates America.

He wants the country to be overrun by pedos and commies.

It really is that simple.
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
19231 posts
Posted on 2/6/26 at 6:13 am to
Federal election should have federal oversight only
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