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re: Microsoft SQL Database Management Program found on Dominion... Non-Authorized software

Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:38 pm to
Posted by Jjdoc
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Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:38 pm to
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You really have no idea what you're talking about do you?


I do. They are 2 entirely different things. One is certified, the other is not.



Run a search on your favorite search engine.

Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:39 pm to
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Does any of this prove that any votes were changed erroneously/fraudulently?



No. This, assuming it's all verified, proves that there was a way of doing it. And, there is no justifiable reason for the software to be there. A case for why it should be installed can't reasonably be argued.

Posted by cwill
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:40 pm to
roadgator when ever I'm posting:



Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53478 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:40 pm to
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So now you are crawfishing to SSMS again....l


Never went away from it.


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I said I don't see anywhere where it is documented that it isn't allowed.


LOL! Anything not listed is not certified, therefore NOT allowed.



Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56621 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:40 pm to
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So now you are crawfishing to SSMS again....like I said I don't see anywhere where it is documented that it isn't allowed.


Only specific software is allowed. Any software that isn't explicitly listed is not allowed.

Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:41 pm to
I'm not going to say you don't know what you are talking about....BUT you are using some non-industry standard terminology to indicate what you are trying to talk about.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:42 pm to
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How do you know? Did you hear/see it?



Yes. It was in the Matt Deperno case and it has been linked in this thread for you.

Go educate yourself. Then you can choose to not come back and admit how wrong you are like you always do.
Posted by LSU316
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:42 pm to
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Only specific software is allowed. Any software that isn't explicitly listed is not allowed.


Meh.....I'd bet that doesn't hold up in court....especially with the way SSMS is ingrained in the MS SQL Server 2016 Standard installation package.

ETA Consider this....how easy would it be to convince a liberal judge and a liberal jury that these crazy MAGA mother frickers trying to overthrow an election don't have a clue what they are talking about in regards to installing MS SQL Server 2016 Standard. It wouldn't be hard for anyone with a little knowledge of SQL to do it and they wouldn't even have to lie to do it.
This post was edited on 5/10/21 at 3:46 pm
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:42 pm to
My fur is black and not as long

And you don’t need to lie. I ignore most of your posts. What a silly lie. Silly, radish.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:43 pm to
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I'm not going to say you don't know what you are talking about....BUT you are using some non-industry standard terminology to indicate what you are trying to talk about.



There is a 100% chance he has no clue what he is talking about

That was evident as soon as he started the thread
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
6527 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:43 pm to
quote:

... NOW --- take this information and layer it on the Dominion Software manipulation

AND

BINGO

THERE YOU ARE

... you see the Dominion Software was hooked up to CrowdStrike --- up until that earthquake on May 16, 2020. That is when the CrowdStrike computer was destroyed ...
... and if you note the reference in the article about the Russian hackers and the Mueller investigation and EVERYTHING ...

well

THIS IS IT

... remember right after the election they found chips in the voting machines that were not supposed to be there.
But those chips were there so that the voting machines could connect with CrowdStrike computer ...

but it was destroyed and they had to go with a backup plan --- old school

... they had to go with actual outside software to be able to communicate with the PROTOTYPE ...

... then they had to pray you would never find out ...


THERE YOU GO





quote:

... you see the Dominion Software was hooked up to CrowdStrike --- up until that earthquake on May 16, 2020. That is when the CrowdStrike computer was destroyed ...


Posted by KiwiHead
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Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:45 pm to
I am not sure you really comprehend what you think this all means.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56621 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:45 pm to
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Can you prove votes were changed if they were...probably not.

Can you prove votes were changed if SSMS was installed on a server...probably not if the person changing them knew what he/she was doing.



One would think the transaction log would be preserved. These systems are supposed to be auditable.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111571 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:46 pm to
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Yes, yes it does.


Why would Dominion lie about that? Wanna nuance that out for us?
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56621 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:46 pm to
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The post I was responding to is one in which he linked a youtube video which if I were a betting man would bet was his initial source of the info and the reason he didn't initially link anything in the OP



That video is literally a video of the zoom meeting court hearing.

You've been wrong over and over and over again in this thread.
Posted by LSU316
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:46 pm to
quote:

One would think the transaction log would be preserved.


It depends on how good the DBA is that is getting paid to do the nefarious deed.

It also depends on how good the person looking for the evidence of said nefarious deed is.

I'm guessing the nefarious deed doer got paid more so my money is on him usually.
Posted by tgerb8
Huntsvegas
Member since Aug 2007
5997 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:47 pm to
quote:

Does any of this prove that any votes were changed erroneously/fraudulently?

quote:

No. Not at all.



That's completely true. However, it is another piece of interesting evidence that would be further investigated in a normal world..

For example... We're investigating a murder. The victim had a uniquely shaped wound. You, a prime suspect have a doodad that recreates the wound perfectly. it's not irrefutable evidence that you committed the crime but it is grounds for more scrutiny.

The problem with this whole thing is that somehow the entire notion of evidence became this vague, non existent, thing that instantly changes everyone's minds and illuminates fraud without a shadow of a doubt. That's not how anything works so how did it get to be the gold standard here?

This is just exhibit 9003 that points to frickery.

Still looking for exhibit 1 that refutes it (other than "nuh uh, you're a white supremacist hell bent on over throwing the democracy")
Posted by LSU316
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:50 pm to
Now you are on a whole other path....the investigation or lack thereof of what happened with the election from Nov. 4, 2020 through the inauguration of Joe Biden as #46.

That in and of itself has little if anything to do with MS SQL Server 2016.
This post was edited on 5/10/21 at 3:51 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124082 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:55 pm to
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Now you are on a whole other path....the investigation or lack thereof of what happened with the election from Nov. 4, 2020 ...
What "path" are you on?
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56621 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:55 pm to
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It depends on how good the DBA is that is getting paid to do the nefarious deed.

It also depends on how good the person looking for the evidence of said nefarious deed is.

I'm guessing the nefarious deed doer got paid more so my money is on him usually.



You are conflating a lot of things.

A secure production environment would never allow the existence of SSMS. That a court wouldn't understand, or would be in the pocket of Dominion doesn't change that.

Allowable software in an environment is always specifically listed. It doesn't make sense to list software that isn't allowed because there are 1 Billion examples of what isn't allowed including your example of the 30 line executable.

A nefarious DBA doesn't eliminate the logical requirement for transaction logging to be enabled and preserved. The lack of those options being enabled would be an example of gross negligence.

The inability to prove something occurred doesn't prove that it didn't happen.

More importantly, these voting systems and the laws governing elections require the elections to be certified. These predefined requirements and standards must be auditable. If they can't be audited to meet the standards, they aren't certifiable.
This post was edited on 5/10/21 at 3:57 pm
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