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re: Microsoft SQL Database Management Program found on Dominion... Non-Authorized software

Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:20 pm to
Posted by MrFizzle
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:20 pm to
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This post was edited on 5/11/21 at 12:06 am
Posted by GodnCountry
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:21 pm to
quote:

This is GodnCountry bailing out on the whole "you didn't read your link" argument because it now appears he didn't read the link.



Not at all.


Do you know the difference between his highlights and what is being talked about?

2 different things.
Posted by LeClerc
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:23 pm to
Your link is for shite.

ETA: Fixed, thank you.
This post was edited on 5/10/21 at 3:27 pm
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:23 pm to
Jesus Christ....please tell us "What is being talked about?"


I mean shite I thought you were saying that MS SQL Server wasn't an approved software for the machine...now that's not it?

What the hell is it? Please don't tell me you really think it's the language, SQL.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:23 pm to
quote:

That's not the data management program.


How do you know that is even what was supposedly found based on the OP with no links? The OP is a dipshit and just said:

quote:

Microsoft SQL found on Dominion


Guess what, based on that info, it is on dominion as provided in their EAC cert and info with 2 state SOSs.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:23 pm to
quote:

If you google "Microsoft SQL Dominion" you find that information provided to the TX SOS and the CO SOS list MS SQL as a standard component.

CO SOS

TX SOS

Also listed as a component in the US Election Assistance Commission's Certificate of Conformance: LINK

So what's going on?


A SQL Server existing as the primary data repository wouldn't be surprising. The existence of the Management toolset is almost assuredly a violation of the security requirements of the secure environment. The existence of the management tools on a separate machine is would not only be a violation of the security protocol, but also extremely suspicious.
Posted by cwill
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:24 pm to
quote:

Not at all.


Do you know the difference between his highlights and what is being talked about?

2 different things.


This is when you know someone is full of shite...they never state their case or provide a direct explanation. GTFO.
Posted by Jjdoc
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:25 pm to
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What am I missing?


The actual program found.


Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:26 pm to
Yea got the quote all jacked up....better now?
Posted by cwill
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:26 pm to
quote:

The existence of the Management toolset is almost assuredly a violation of the security requirements of the secure environment.


Do you have information that the "Management toolset" was found?
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:26 pm to
You are the only trustworthy leftist here.

Is this a big nothing burger?
Posted by Jjdoc
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:27 pm to
quote:

A SQL Server existing as the primary data repository wouldn't be surprising. The existence of the Management toolset is almost assuredly a violation of the security requirements of the secure environment. The existence of the management tools on a separate machine is would not only be a violation of the security protocol, but also extremely suspicious.


Yep. And not on the list in Cwill's link either. There is a reason for that too.
Posted by CptRusty
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:27 pm to
quote:

It's a language, not a software.

quote:
Microsoft SQL Server is a relational database management system developed by Microsoft. As a database server, it is a software product with the primary function of storing and retrieving data as requested by other software applications



It’s both.

SQL is an abbreviation of “Structured Query Language”

MS SQL is Microsoft’s enterprise level database software. Others you might have heard of is Oracle or Pi.
Posted by Jjdoc
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:28 pm to
Presented in court today.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:28 pm to
quote:

The actual program found.


So you've since edited you OP...how about a link to the information supporting the now edited title to your OP.

ETA: I wouldn't be surprised if disinfo jjdoc-gateway, edited is OP after reading a few posts by more knowledgeable posters.
This post was edited on 5/10/21 at 3:29 pm
Posted by LSU316
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:28 pm to
quote:

A SQL Server existing as the primary data repository wouldn't be surprising. The existence of the Management toolset is almost assuredly a violation of the security requirements of the secure environment. The existence of the management tools on a separate machine is would not only be a violation of the security protocol, but also extremely suspicious.


OK so now we are talking SSMS...I can buy that there are many servers where SSMS isn't allowed. However, that is called out in the requirements specifically because if not it usually gets installed.

I don't see it specifically called not to install it as a part of MS SQL Server in the docs, but maybe it was a part of the deal. That could be something to look at.

Regardless I think the point here is was the server networked...if not good....if so we have a problem regardless of what software was installed on the machine.
Posted by tgerb8
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:30 pm to
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The existence of the management tools on a separate machine is would not only be a violation of the security protocol, but also extremely suspicious.


Absolutely. By itself this could be written off as a non issue. The DoD has routine security inspections and tiny settings are scrutinized let alone entire, unnecessary software suites. Either way this, as any unneeded/additional software, is a security vulnerability. That, in itself could be malicious or just an oversight (however it sheds doubt on the entire security audit I would assume these go through before they are deployed). The strange thing is SQL isn't "dig dug" for 2 reasons. It's not free, unlicensed software. And it wasn't installed by a bored admin who forgot to remove it. Both points indicate a reason. What was the reason?
This post was edited on 5/10/21 at 3:57 pm
Posted by Jjdoc
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Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:30 pm to
YEs. I gave you an out. Reading the thread we all understood that it was the database management software.


Sure. You will find it in the last part of the video.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:31 pm to
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"Semantics"...usually goes pretty poorly after you use that word.



Only because you don't understand.

Since you said you weren't technical, I'll explain it very simply.

With the existence of these management tools, an authorized user with access to the database (potentially remote) could very quickly and easily manipulate data.

Common sense tells you (even though you keep asking if this software is allowed or not) that this type of software wouldn't be permitted. You'd want your certified election software being the only software with access to the database.
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:31 pm to
It's funny because the link to the EAC certification PDF is in the OP now and it says "Not listed" when MS SQL Server is clearly listed in the certification...wow
This post was edited on 5/10/21 at 3:32 pm
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