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re: Microsoft SQL Database Management Program found on Dominion... Non-Authorized software
Posted on 5/10/21 at 4:32 pm to Jjdoc
Posted on 5/10/21 at 4:32 pm to Jjdoc
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To be on voting machines. Yes! Thus it's certification. That means the machines lost it's certification. Thus the vote can not be certified.
This is not hard.
You are trying to reason with never trumpers The thought of Biden actually winning the election without fraud never crossed their minds.
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 4:36 pm to Jjdoc
Wonderful....get that guy under oath, in a court room, in front of the judge, and do that same thing.
Then get a Dominion person under oath on the stand in the court room to describe how/why that is possible.
Then get a Dominion person under oath on the stand in the court room to describe how/why that is possible.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 4:38 pm to LSU316
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Wonderful....get that guy under oath, in a court room, in front of the judge, and do that same thing.
Already given to the court. That's why we are having the conversation.
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Then get a Dominion person under oath on the stand in the court room to describe how/why that is possible.
I agree. But let's be honest they are being protected and running from court.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 4:39 pm to LSU316
The problem is it doesn't matter....I understand that they have showed in court that the Dominion machines in multiple states were networked which is specifically not allowed on these voting machines. If they have shown that and the people that make the decisions don't care then I don't think there are any tech cards you can play that will prove your case.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 4:49 pm to moneyg
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You are playing semantics.
Not at all. You said it "provides access." That is not true.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 4:50 pm to 10MTNTiger
Dude, you can connect to a SQL Server and modify the data with the built in command prompt.(powershell sqlps for example). In both cases you would need access and rights.
They aren’t going to use SSMS to automate a hack. It will be done with scripts and code execution.
They aren’t going to use SSMS to automate a hack. It will be done with scripts and code execution.
This post was edited on 5/10/21 at 4:55 pm
Posted on 5/10/21 at 5:00 pm to BeepNode
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Dude, you can connect to a SQL Server and modify the data with the built in command prompt.(powershell sqlps for example). In both cases you would need access and rights.
They aren’t going to use SSMS to automate a hack. It will be done with scripts and code execution.
I don't necessarily agree. It may actually be easier to install SSMS than some other executable or service. And, low tech and manual may have been preferred. But, it's irrelevant. None of that matters.
Proof of the possibility is what is important. It doesn't matter if there was a different program that did the work. The result is the same.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 5:00 pm to BeepNode
The fact that we're talking about this means fundamentally that MSSQL is running on the dominion machines. That makes this tool irrelevant as a security concern because anything on the machine (or remotely) could conceivably connect to it with privileges.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 5:02 pm to moneyg
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Proof of the possibility is what is important.
What's important is breach of protocol, that's it. Whether it's SSMS or a random asp script or compiled binary, we already know that data in a database can be modified. You can't use just that as a proof of possiblity, because the vulnerability is the database itself + protocol.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 5:04 pm to jonnyanony
And if I were presented with this I'd have a lot of questions about transaction logs, database users and ACLs and automated snapshots with integrity checks
Posted on 5/10/21 at 5:26 pm to moneyg
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It may actually be easier to install SSMS than some other executable or service. And, low tech and manual may have been preferred. But, it's irrelevant. None of that matters.
According to the Attorney's people, they are going to show how running scripts rather than commands will do all the work.
Watch the video
Posted on 5/10/21 at 5:43 pm to cwill
The Texas one literally states the issues aren't up to standards and that the Dominion democracy shouldn't be certified.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 5:47 pm to Jjdoc
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No.. No it doesn't. It's an illegal software on voting machine.
It is a violation of the law. Waiting for arrests.
Will probably run out of popcorn.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 5:48 pm to jonnyanony
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And if I were presented with this I'd have a lot of questions about transaction logs, database users and ACLs and automated snapshots with integrity checks
Lot of BS in this thread, but these are good questions.
SSMS doesn't mean a thing. I can get into the database with the command line if I have permissions.
Transaction Logs and any change tracking would tell a lot.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 5:50 pm to Jjdoc
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According to the Attorney's people, they are going to show how running scripts rather than commands will do all the work.
A script is just a list of commands. you can think of it as a program.
For example. Let's say I knew I was going to inject 10000 fraudulent ballots, and I wanted to increase Biden by 9k and Trump 1K, that would be an example of a very simple script.
I could also apply a more complicated mathmatical algorithm that shaved percentages of votes from Trump and gave them to Biden so that the expected total of physical ballots were appropriate.
With access to the database, the possibility of fraud is endless.
If they are taking an imaged version of these machines, and showing that the door is wide open to sql scripts being run, it shows that the system had zero legitimate security.
This post was edited on 5/10/21 at 5:51 pm
Posted on 5/10/21 at 5:51 pm to Powerman
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There is a 100% chance he has no clue what he is talking about
That's rich.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 6:03 pm to moneyg
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SQL is a language. SQL Management Studio is a software, and this is what has been referenced
Transact SQL is the language in MSSQL SERVER. It’s PL/SQL IN Oracle.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 6:05 pm to xxTIMMYxx
They could have done a dry run of data and created a package in Visual Studio SSIS/BIDS that automated any changes
Posted on 5/10/21 at 6:07 pm to BeepNode
They aren’t going to use SSMS to automate a hack. It will be done with scripts and code execution.
You can with SSIS. I do it all the time
You can with SSIS. I do it all the time
Posted on 5/10/21 at 6:12 pm to xxTIMMYxx
You can also certainly write a tsql script, with plenty of procedures and functions to do anything you want if you are good at what you are doing in SSMS. Test it. Then execute it. The importing of data would probably need SSIS if you were automating though.
Even so, importing 10k rows of data is simple and you could run a simple update command to do something like switch votes
Even so, importing 10k rows of data is simple and you could run a simple update command to do something like switch votes
This post was edited on 5/10/21 at 6:14 pm
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