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Massive study: Fully vax are 13 times more likely to get infected than the Recovered
Posted on 8/27/21 at 9:43 pm
Posted on 8/27/21 at 9:43 pm
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The new analysis relies on the database of Maccabi Healthcare Services, which enrolls about 2.5 million Israelis. The study, led by Tal Patalon and Sivan Gazit at KSM, the system’s research and innovation arm, found in two analyses that people who were vaccinated in January and February were, in June, July, and the first half of August, six to 13 times more likely to get infected than unvaccinated people who were previously infected with the coronavirus. In one analysis, comparing more than 32,000 people in the health system, the risk of developing symptomatic COVID-19 was 27 times higher among the vaccinated, and the risk of hospitalization eight times higher.
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Posted on 8/27/21 at 9:50 pm to Jjdoc
"Conspiracy theory! Stop sharing harmful disinformation! If you already had covid, you need to get vaccinated. You don't have the right to infect the vaccinated!"
- Mindless, Fauci-bots
- Mindless, Fauci-bots
Posted on 8/27/21 at 9:50 pm to Jjdoc
quote:what we need to know are the stats for those that were:
6 to 13 times more likely to get infected than unvaccinated people who were previously infected with the coronavirus.
1) % Infected that were unvaccinated
2) Previously infected and now also vaccinated.
Would that be important to know all the facts and not selected ones? All this tells us is that those that survived have natural immunity which makes sense.
Posted on 8/27/21 at 9:51 pm to Jjdoc
I can’t believe people are still arguing this. This is just as bad as when everyone got in a frenzy about wearing masks outside a few months ago. So dumb
Posted on 8/27/21 at 9:52 pm to xxTIMMYxx
quote:I think he is arguing that it is better to get infected once so you dont get infected twice.
I can’t believe people are still arguing this.
Posted on 8/27/21 at 10:04 pm to Jjdoc
Most of the O-T will not like this.
Posted on 8/27/21 at 10:13 pm to Jjdoc
From your article
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The researchers also found that people who had SARS-CoV-2 previously and then received one dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccine were more highly protected against reinfection than those who once had the virus and were still unvaccinated.
Posted on 8/27/21 at 10:17 pm to Jjdoc
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which enrolls about 2.5 million Israelis. T
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In one analysis, comparing more than 32,000 people
Sounds like they cherry picked the data
Posted on 8/27/21 at 10:18 pm to Jjdoc
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The researchers also found that people who had SARS-CoV-2 previously and then received one dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccine were more highly protected against reinfection than those who once had the virus and were still unvaccinated."
Posted on 8/27/21 at 10:26 pm to Coater
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From your article
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The researchers also found that people who had SARS-CoV-2 previously and then received one dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccine were more highly protected against reinfection than those who once had the virus and were still unvaccinated.
It was fully established that the OP cannot understand medical literature the other day when he didn’t realize that the data regarding delta deaths in England was only referring to the small percentage COVID deaths that had been genotyped and not all the COVID deaths in England. He is basically a parrot in that he can repeat something but doesn’t understand.
Posted on 8/27/21 at 10:34 pm to Jjdoc
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“The differences are huge,” says Thålin, although she cautions that the numbers for infections and other events analyzed for the comparisons were “small.” For instance, the higher hospitalization rate in the 32,000-person analysis was based on just eight hospitalizations in a vaccinated group and one in a previously infected group. And the 13-fold increased risk of infection in the same analysis was based on just 238 infections in the vaccinated population, less than 1.5% of the more than 16,000 people, versus 19 reinfections among a similar number of people who once had SARS-CoV-2.
It is not a surprise that natural immunity is superior to vaccinated immunity. But certainly vaccinated immunity is vastly superior in COVID prevention to not being vaccinated at all, and there is nothing in this study to dispute this point. One of the problems here is with odds for rare events. If vaccinated people have a breakthrough Covid case, say, 0.000008 percent of the time and those with natural immunities have a breakthrough case 0.000001 percent of the time, it is true that vaccinated people are eight times more likely to become infected with COVID than those previously infected with COVID. But this is based on such small probabilities that one cannot draw a conclusion that being vaccinated poses a serious level of danger. In this study the authors find that a very rare event (i.e., having a breakthrough case after being vaccinated) is more likely to occur than another very rare event (i.e., having a breakthrough case after being infected with COVID and developing natural immunity). But both of these rare events occurs with much, much less frequency than being unvaccinated and becoming infected with COVID.
Posted on 8/27/21 at 10:39 pm to gillian
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But certainly vaccinated immunity is vastly superior in COVID prevention
Vaccines DO NOT prevent the transmission of COVID.
Posted on 8/27/21 at 10:40 pm to Jjdoc
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The researchers also found that people who had SARS-CoV-2 previously and then received one dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccine were more highly protected against reinfection than those who once had the virus and were still unvaccinated.
Posted on 8/27/21 at 10:44 pm to Jjdoc
It’s legit. Tucker reported on it tonight.
Posted on 8/27/21 at 10:44 pm to Jjdoc
What about people whi recovered and got vaxxed?
Posted on 8/27/21 at 10:45 pm to Jjdoc
People think masks and lockdowns work
Despite them categorically not working anywhere many times
Mental illness is a big problem
Despite them categorically not working anywhere many times
Mental illness is a big problem
Posted on 8/27/21 at 10:46 pm to Coater
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From your article
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The researchers also found that people who had SARS-CoV-2 previously and then received one dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccine were more highly protected against reinfection than those who once had the virus and were still unvaccinated.
And I'm here to report that if you live exclusively outdoors and avoid being within 100 yards of any other human being for the rest of your life, there is a 100% probability you'll never get CV-19.
I think it's time for a new mandate from the mindless Left.
Posted on 8/27/21 at 10:52 pm to Jjdoc
Something tells me the government knows this . They don’t want the China flu to go away , because like I’ve said they are in the cusp of total power . All they need to do is steal one more election and it’s over ! COVID provides them that opportunity. Something not discussed is anyone who has gotten COVID who did not get vaxed , did they catch it again? I haven’t seen any news on people who have gotten COVID who didn’t get vaxed get it a second time .
Posted on 8/27/21 at 10:55 pm to DotBling
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Vaccines DO NOT prevent the transmission of COVID.
Posted on 8/27/21 at 11:05 pm to LSU316
Notice rather than just reporting the truth... That if you've had it you can chill, they throw the vaxers a bone.
"And if you get the vax, it's even that much better." The authors of the study trying not to get cancelled by adding that bull shite twist.
The fact is, nobody as any right to try to coerce these people into getting vacinated. They aren't spreaders and the vaxed are.
The vaxed should be tested and quarantined like everyone else... except those who have had the disease.
"And if you get the vax, it's even that much better." The authors of the study trying not to get cancelled by adding that bull shite twist.
The fact is, nobody as any right to try to coerce these people into getting vacinated. They aren't spreaders and the vaxed are.
The vaxed should be tested and quarantined like everyone else... except those who have had the disease.
This post was edited on 8/27/21 at 11:08 pm
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