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re: Massie dug his own grave.

Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:01 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476855 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:01 am to
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No I am stating facts. T

The facts you're stating is that they changed and adopted Trump's plans over Massie's consistent policy positions they've supported over the long term.
Posted by lurking
Member since Nov 2022
2388 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:01 am to
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We are done here.




Why do you behave like a democrat?
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
10840 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:02 am to
His oath is to the Constitution. He's an extremely rare politician in that he takes that oath seriously.

Massie didn't change. Trump's supporters' sudden love of massive government is what changed.
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
11266 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:02 am to
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Yeah thats what I figured


Glad to explain it for you. You lie and never provide any answers for the retarded claims you make.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476855 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:02 am to
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Why do you behave like a democrat?

I would say it's because he realizes he backed himself into a corner, but I don't think he's smart enough to realize that
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46024 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:03 am to
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You're not making a valid point here


I'm making a very valid point here.

You, however, are being your usual narcisstic arrogant self thinking you are the smartest guy in the room, and that of course the only possible explanation here is yours, and that is the people of Massie's district are thralls to the Vast Israeli Conspiracy.

You're so smart you have it all figured out, you can't possibly be wrong, and the people of his district are just too stupid to understand they're being controlled.

This is why people think you're a piece of shite my man. You have zero humility, about anything, ever.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476855 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:05 am to
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I'm making a very valid point here.

Only if you ignore all the history and data it provides

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and that is the people of Massie's district are thralls to the Vast Israeli Conspiracy.

Nice straw man

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You, however, are being your usual narcisstic arrogant self thinking you are the smartest guy in the room, and that of course the only possible explanation here is yours

And ad hom

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You're so smart you have it all figured out, you can't possibly be wrong, and the people of his district are just too stupid to understand they're being controlled.

This is why people think you're a piece of shite my man. You have zero humility, about anything, ever.


Holy shite

Yeah, I didn't think you had a valid response.

Your reliance on fallacy after fallacy while ignoring the history I pointed out is telling.

Do better.
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
27680 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:06 am to
Number one rule of politics. Don’t piss off your constituents.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55642 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:08 am to
Yeah, I think Massie will have more new friends and will go the route of Majority.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
10093 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:09 am to
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quote: Trump changed the plan and Massie called him on it.

No truth in that statement.


Candidate Trump: I will erase the deficit
President Trump: I want to add 500Billion to MICspending
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60676 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:10 am to
Maybe his district is very low iq
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55642 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:11 am to
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His oath is to the Constitution.


True.

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He's an extremely rare politician in that he takes that oath seriously.


No True.

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Massie didn't change. Trump's supporters' sudden love of massive government is what changed.


No. Once more, conservatives have never, ever been no gov. Ever. At no point in this nation.

The gov is something that was inherited. Trump made moves to shrink the gov. In both terms.

Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55642 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:13 am to
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You, however, are being your usual narcisstic arrogant self thinking you are the smartest guy in the room, and that of course the only possible explanation here is yours, and that is the people of Massie's district are thralls to the Vast Israeli Conspiracy.


Yes sir. Which is why I rarely engage with him.

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This is why people think you're a piece of shite my man. You have zero humility, about anything, ever.


Yep.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63364 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:16 am to
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Trump made moves to shrink the gov. In both terms.

I'm injured! My abs are sore.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476855 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:17 am to
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Number one rule of politics. Don’t piss off your constituents


What policy positions did he change in the last 1.5 years to do this?
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
59278 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:17 am to
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He went the opposite way. And now his job is going to go to somebody else.


Going against Trump like that is going to get a reciprocal response from Trump and his supporters. At that point people do one of two things:

1. Stick with just being against Trump on that singular issue. This confrontation often (but not always, right Bill Cassidy? ) ends up as "water under the bridge" as work on the things they and Trump agree on continues.

2. Get the butt-hurt to the point where they begin actively taking other stances against Trump for little obvious reason other than "he was mean to me!" These are the types who end up spiraling out of control (see: MTG).

Running for Congress often means having a big ego. Staying in Congress with its courtesan class constantly looking for ways to be in your good graces (and get incriminating evidence on you) grows that ego. People like that are far more susceptible to succumbing to the 2nd point, especially if they've been in the Beltway for a decade or more (ie: long enough to feel the job and having smoke being constantly blown up their arse is their right).

Massie let the job get to him enough that he's fallen into that 2nd category.
Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
5058 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:19 am to
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I am stating facts. Those people are Conservatives. NOT LIBERTARIANS. You dont know the difference. And that is where you get stuck at. We are done here.


Lmao. It would be one thing is Massie was running against a conservative stalwart. He is not.

He is running against against a person who promoted DEI policies a short time ago.

You couldn’t make this up if you tried. This race is a microcosm of the gallatically stupid.
This post was edited on 5/19/26 at 8:20 am
Posted by DeBoar
Cullman, AL
Member since Jan 2024
1705 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:20 am to
Massie is endorsed by dei
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55642 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:20 am to
Thats it.

You see we have a real issue with being conservative or libertarian.

Conservatives actually see a use for smaller gov vs no gov.

The point being that the people decided they wanted Teumps plan with the understanding that it will balance out based on the movement businesses into the US. It why I purchased INTC.

Tariffs are not an issue for the majority of conservatives. Concerns? Sure, but we know that out critical needs and losing the ability to manufacture what we need has to change.

Trumps realignment of Oil is 100% what is and was needed. Iran with a nuke holds the world hostage.

Trump's plan to make an America shield is needed.

I could go on and on, but ...
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
27680 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:21 am to
If Massie is such a staunch conservative then why have the voters turned on him? That is the real question. What did he do to piss off the people in the state?
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