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Mass deportations taking new twist with fines attached.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 8:13 am
Posted on 5/11/26 at 8:13 am
I recall one case about a week ago like this; apparently the government is stepping up the financial penalty side of illegals (and legals w/ denaturalization).
$1.8M imposed on a woman who entered from Mexico to the U.S., decades ago. Now she claims to find out she was told to leave some time back. Trump admin is now invoking rarely used fines to have them leave.
Greg Foreman, Black Conservative Perspective. Indexed to case above.
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Posted on 5/11/26 at 8:15 am to captainFid
Fine the employers why is that so hard? Are they doing that?
Posted on 5/11/26 at 8:18 am to Gifman
Fine the employers why is that so hard? Are they doing that?
what he said
what he said
This post was edited on 5/11/26 at 8:19 am
Posted on 5/11/26 at 8:23 am to captainFid
Many of them work in Mexican restaurants.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 8:27 am to Gifman
Fine the employers. Fine the illegals. Arrest the employers. Arrest the illegals. Put 100% fees on remittances to problem countries. Get them off the taxpayers' teat and off of voter rolls. Apportion representatives by citizenship, not bodies.
Do everything legally possible to get them the frick out of the country.
Do everything legally possible to get them the frick out of the country.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 8:27 am to captainFid
They won't collect it, so she should be fast tracked outta here hopefully, none of these can pay these fines and Trump knows it
This post was edited on 5/11/26 at 8:57 am
Posted on 5/11/26 at 8:38 am to Gifman
Like abbott would have taken actions against his home builder buddies
Posted on 5/11/26 at 8:51 am to ole man
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They won't collect it, so she should be fast tracked outta here hopefully none of these can pay these fines and Trump knows it
Probably go on their own to avoid the fine so we save the bonus money, legal time, and we can blacklist em for life.
And if they fight it we tie up a bunch of lawfare lawyers time.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 8:56 am to captainFid
Most of these illegals have SS#, so tough to go after legit employers.
Unless you count your neighbor who used a spaniard he picked up at home depo to fix his roof.
Remittances wont work either, they will just use a local guy, hand him money in the US, he calls his partner in Mexico and hands off the money to their wife, and gets to launder his drug money in the process.
Id like to see us exert federal muscle on "sanctuary cities". Remove all federal controlled processes. Take them off the SWIFT banking system, the internet, the phone systems, airports, and interstate. They want to pretend they can be part of the US when they chose, let them chose.
Unless you count your neighbor who used a spaniard he picked up at home depo to fix his roof.
Remittances wont work either, they will just use a local guy, hand him money in the US, he calls his partner in Mexico and hands off the money to their wife, and gets to launder his drug money in the process.
Id like to see us exert federal muscle on "sanctuary cities". Remove all federal controlled processes. Take them off the SWIFT banking system, the internet, the phone systems, airports, and interstate. They want to pretend they can be part of the US when they chose, let them chose.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 8:59 am to Gifman
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Fine the employers why is that so hard? Are they doing that?
The vast majority if employers are using e-verify and being told the employee is legal to hire.
This post was edited on 5/11/26 at 9:00 am
Posted on 5/11/26 at 9:29 am to Gifman
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Fine the employers why is that so hard? Are they doing that?
Had several people during the last decade plus when I suspected someone might not be legal and the GOVT software, E-Verify would say "hire them" or "we are not sure at this time but you can hire them and we will follow up" but you never got any follow up. As Rush Limbaugh said we can track a cow born in Canada that moved to US and moved back to Canada but can't track a person?
Posted on 5/11/26 at 9:40 am to trinidadtiger
quote:Tacking on huge remittance fees will work. USA should use every tool available to make as difficult, costly, and as inconvenient as possible to send $$ other countries. I'm all for sanctioning "sanctuary cities".
Remittances wont work either, they will just use a local guy, hand him money in the US, he calls his partner in Mexico and hands off the money to their wife, and gets to launder his drug money in the process.
Id like to see us exert federal muscle on "sanctuary cities". Remove all federal controlled processes. Take them off the SWIFT banking system, the internet, the phone systems, airports, and interstate. They want to pretend they can be part of the US when they chose, let them chose.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 9:41 am to rebeloke
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Many of them work in Mexican restaurants.
They should be fined for sneaking in then fined again for giving people the shits.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 9:52 am to RT1941
RT, I used to think that as well til I moved outside the US. I didnt explain very well so here is a real life example.
We have a lot of Venezuelans here in Trinidad. Western Union gouges them on fees because they know the situation. So a Venezuelan (Juan) here told me he takes 750 Trinidad dollars to a guy here in Trinidad who gives him an exchange of 100US, he then deducts a small fee. He then picks up the phone and whatsapp his partner in Venezuela. Juan's wife is sitting in front of the partner and the guy says Juan just handed me the money give his wife 100 bucks US. I already took out the fee on my end.
Not only did Juan's wife get the money, but the money changer, who no doubt is associated with Maduro govt, just cleaned the drug money and moved it out of Venezuela. Aint life a kick in the head.
We have a lot of Venezuelans here in Trinidad. Western Union gouges them on fees because they know the situation. So a Venezuelan (Juan) here told me he takes 750 Trinidad dollars to a guy here in Trinidad who gives him an exchange of 100US, he then deducts a small fee. He then picks up the phone and whatsapp his partner in Venezuela. Juan's wife is sitting in front of the partner and the guy says Juan just handed me the money give his wife 100 bucks US. I already took out the fee on my end.
Not only did Juan's wife get the money, but the money changer, who no doubt is associated with Maduro govt, just cleaned the drug money and moved it out of Venezuela. Aint life a kick in the head.
This post was edited on 5/11/26 at 9:55 am
Posted on 5/11/26 at 10:05 am to Gifman
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Fine the employers why is that so hard? Are they doing that?
It isn't always this simple. Many times employers use the federal verification system like they are supposed to. But the verification system has been corrupted by the uniparty gov.
I dont think fining companies who followed procedure is appropriate.
This post was edited on 5/11/26 at 10:06 am
Posted on 5/11/26 at 10:09 am to captainFid
Posted on 5/11/26 at 10:43 am to imjustafatkid
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Fine the employers why is that so hard? Are they doing that?
The vast majority if employers are using e-verify and being told the employee is legal to hire.
This is the problem with the "fining the employer" angle. Sure, you could get the ones not using e-verify and/or are obviously ignoring questionable paperwork. But if an employer uses e-verify and gets the authorization notice; why would they be at-fault for employing illegals?
Posted on 5/11/26 at 10:45 am to Gifman
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Fine the employers why is that so hard? Are they doing that?
Don't be naive. They aren't going to risk pissing off their donors.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 10:58 am to Weekend Warrior79
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This is the problem with the "fining the employer" angle. Sure, you could get the ones not using e-verify and/or are obviously ignoring questionable paperwork. But if an employer uses e-verify and gets the authorization notice; why would they be at-fault for employing illegals?
They wouldn't, and I think that's why you don't see prosecutions of employers in most of these cases. The reality of the situation is that our government sucks and no employer is going to take the risk of claiming documents look "fishy" to them after going through e-verify and being told by the government that it's legal to hire that employee. Getting that wrong, just once, would be opening yourself up to a lawsuit.
This post was edited on 5/11/26 at 10:59 am
Posted on 5/11/26 at 11:20 am to Weekend Warrior79
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This is the problem with the "fining the employer" angle. Sure, you could get the ones not using e-verify and/or are obviously ignoring questionable paperwork. But if an employer uses e-verify and gets the authorization notice; why would they be at-fault for employing illegals?
The thing that also gets lost in this is that there are around 4-8 million people in the US with valid employment authorization that are not permanent residents. Of that number around 1m have it from TPS and DACA, and around 1.5-3m have it from pending asylum applications. So that is 2.5-4m with totally valid permission to work but are technically "illegal."
Why should an employer be fined for hiring someone who is legally allowed to work?
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