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re: Marine veteran Daniel Penny indicted for subway chokehold death of Jordan Neely
Posted on 6/15/23 at 6:02 am to AggieHank86
Posted on 6/15/23 at 6:02 am to AggieHank86
quote:Which isn't ideology, it's just stupidity given that the courts have repeatedly ruled that the police have no duty to protect.
Obtuse probably said it better, when he said that this prosecution is IDEOLOGICAL, with that ideology being the notion that citizens not exercise this sort of self-help but instead rely upon law enforcement.
Heck, even if courts said the police had such a duty, you'd need to multiply the number of cops by at least 10 to even hope to create a situation where a cop being on this scene started to reach "likely". And, I'll be my house this prosecutor is not in support of such an action.
This post was edited on 6/15/23 at 6:03 am
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Posted on 6/15/23 at 6:08 am to Worthy Adversary
quote:Well-written advocacy for a broader concept of the justification defenses. Personally, I come closer to agreeing with you than to the position reflected in New York law. Eggs and omelette, right?
Worthy Adversary
But the US is still (arguably?) a federal system, with each state able to enact laws that reflect the ideologies and mores of its citizens.
New York has codified the belief that bad things will happen more often if Joe Citizen can use “deadly physical force” with impunity than will happen if that right is restricted. If you disagree, don’t live in NY.
This post was edited on 6/15/23 at 6:22 am
Posted on 6/15/23 at 6:20 am to AggieHank86
quote:That is again, because if ivory tower morons who have a horrible definition of "bad things".
New York has codified the belief that bad things will happen more often if Joe citizen can use “deadly physical force” with impunity than will happen if that right is restricted. If you disagree, don’t live in NY.
You see, how many "bad things" there are isn't just a result of the total number of bad things. Rather, it's the total number of things we call "bad".
When the ivory tower idiots start counting, their total includes all of the people who end up dead after creating the situation that led to their death. Meanwhile, these same ivory tower fools do not count(because it's hard), ANY of the people who end up dead, robbed, raped etc etc because criminals feel emboldened by the state's defacto defense of them.
Every time some citizen is harmed while able bodied fellow citizen watch too scared to become the next Penny, is a "bad thing" the ivory tower person will never count.
Meanwhile, when I tally up the number of "bad things", I don't even need 1 finger to count up how many "dead cause I caused it myself" people there are.
Posted on 6/15/23 at 6:29 am to Worthy Adversary
Hank would be attempting to dazzle you with the intricacies of the wiring while the house burned down.
Let Hank be Hank and don’t sweat it too much.
Let Hank be Hank and don’t sweat it too much.
Posted on 6/15/23 at 7:25 am to EKG
Ran across this 1968 painting by Mort Künstler.
What Penny did used to be heroically depicted. How times have changed.
What Penny did used to be heroically depicted. How times have changed.
This post was edited on 6/15/23 at 7:39 am
Posted on 6/15/23 at 7:51 am to TrueTiger
quote:
What Penny did used to be heroically depicted. How times have changed.
Another dumb part about going after Penny is that basically, it criminalizes effectiveness.
What it, instead of dragging the dude down and holding him down by the neck, he'd simply thrown a stiff right cross and the guy died? It is perfectly possible for a strong man to kill another man with a bare fisted punch.
Penny had the guy subdued and, well, now we know taht Penny is NOT an expert at knowing for sure if the other guy is gonna die during the subduing.
Oh fricking well. He shouldn't have to be an expert.
Posted on 6/15/23 at 7:56 am to AggieHank86
quote:
yet he is being treated like those McMichael yahoos in Georgia.
Well...he is being treated like those McMichael yahoos should have been treated from the beginning.
Posted on 6/15/23 at 8:55 am to EKG
Probably shouldn't have used his glowy fist.
Posted on 1/4/24 at 5:20 pm to EKG
Any updates on our hero?
Trial date set?
How's the defense fund holding up?
Posted on 1/4/24 at 5:25 pm to EKG
We need rethink our "automatic extradition" to liberal states for shite like this and make it a case by case basis
Posted on 1/4/24 at 5:33 pm to AggieHank86
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AggieHank86
Geesh, it's sometimes easy to forget what a massive insufferable twat this freaking guy was.
Posted on 1/4/24 at 5:44 pm to EKG
In the old days of the west we would take a couple strong horses and tie ropes around the bars of his outside window and free this man.
Posted on 1/4/24 at 5:44 pm to Y.A. Tittle
quote:
Y.A. Tittle
You just joined the 100k club.
Posted on 1/4/24 at 5:46 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Geesh, it's sometimes easy to forget what a massive insufferable twat this freaking guy was.
Still is.
Posted on 1/4/24 at 7:01 pm to EKG
Posted on 1/4/24 at 7:04 pm to KosmoCramer
I was confused why our boy (F)Aggie Hank was posting again then I looked at the date.
Posted on 1/4/24 at 8:36 pm to Fun Bunch
Victims lacked dark skin pigments so it wasn't a crime.
quote:
He was just a poor harmless Michael Jackson impersonator that had 44 arrests and kidnapped a 7 year old and beat an old lady on the subway so bad that she broke her face.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 4:19 pm to Y.A. Tittle
quote:
Look how embarrassed those cops look
I would have refused to arrest and made a speech outside of the police station/DA office calling this a sham and asking people to take to the streets.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 4:23 pm to Great Plains Drifter
quote:
Let Hank be Hank and don’t sweat it too much
didnt hank get a vacay recently? so much nicer when he was not around spewing
eta: dang it...missed the date.
This post was edited on 1/5/24 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 1/5/24 at 5:31 pm to dafif
I imagine Hank to be about as likable as Adam Schiff irl.
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