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re: Maricopa County IDs Election Workers Who Deleted Ariz. Audit Files.

Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:48 am to
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39548 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:48 am to
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I think we all do. I think the more we investigate the more we find the last election wasn’t as “fraudulent” as many here claim.

So let’s go run this one down too.


We havent "found" that at all. We've just observed a handful of judges who wont look at evidence. 2020 isnt going to ever be resolved because the powers that be ultimately dont want it to be, and the people in a position to look into this dont want their fricking houses burned down. The focus needs to be on running the covid sham votes out of every state and fixing the system going forward.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39548 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:49 am to
except every poll has Trump boatracing any democrat challenger including Biden.

You are just barfing up your opinions and demanding we respect them as facts. That doesnt work here.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
7033 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:49 am to
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He GAINED in traditional dem stronghold voting blocs like Blacks, Latinos, and Asians dumbshit. He was getting MORE votes from the very people who were supposed to be "voting against him".


More of these people turned out to vote against him. Black voter turnout for example was at an all time high. Do you understand how knowing that that Trump could make a small gain in that demographic but still lose? I know you people are not this dumb. Are you that brainwashed by Trump? Think about what you are posting. None of it matter when the opponent get such a large amount of votes.
Posted by tigerfan 64
in the LP
Member since Sep 2016
3839 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:49 am to
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Something being 'illegal' (after the fact might I add) doesn't mean or prove 'fraud'. Do you understand this?


The additional boxes provided by NGO Zucker bucks were illegal based on election law already in the state constitution prior to the election. No laws were changed after the election making the boxes illegal.

The question is how hard were these non legislative rule changes challenged prior to the election, and if they were challenged, what judge allowed them to stand due to "muh covid" fear and election manipulation?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111565 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:50 am to
Are you ducking?

You think that a 2024 election involving Trump would have a comparable voter turnout to 2020? Yes or no.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39548 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:50 am to
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More of these people turned out to vote against him. Black voter turnout for example was at an all time high. Do you understand how knowing that that Trump could make a small gain in that demographic but still lose? I know you people are not this dumb. Are you that brainwashed by Trump? Think about what you are posting. None of it matter when the opponent get such a large amount of votes.


Do you understand how math works at all?
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68813 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:50 am to
Then he needs to be arrested, go to trial, then hung in public.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39548 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:52 am to
Only if a dem can drop 2500 Biden votes registered to an empty lot in Philly.
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20248 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:52 am to
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None of this matters 20 months after the fact. Its too late


Hmm, wonder if you would have the same take on other crimes as your take here is? Just stonewall for 20 months, committing other crimes to do that, then you’re in the clear. Hope nobody ever frauds you out of your life savings.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
30857 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:52 am to
quote:

More of these people turned out to vote against him. Black voter turnout for example was at an all time high. Do you understand how knowing that that Trump could make a small gain in that demographic but still lose? I know you people are not this dumb. Are you that brainwashed by Trump? Think about what you are posting. None of it matter when the opponent get such a large amount of votes.


There is no way Biden got more votes than Black Jesus.
Posted by BurntOrangeMan
Dallas TX
Member since May 2021
5628 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:52 am to
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None of this matters 20 months after the fact. Its too late. Trump and his 'team' had ample time to prepare for this and failed. His team could not produce any fraud either. It was stuck down in every court for lacking evidence/merit.




@ronricks

Beta
Sheep
Room temp IQ
Gullible
Pawn
Posted by G2160
houston
Member since May 2013
1758 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:52 am to
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Bam! This is the hard evidence we've been waiting for! It was made public at a meeting of We The People AZ. I don't know what that is but it sounds patriotic enough. I took a look and they seem to be funded primarily by the Overstock guy and the pillow guy so I know I can trust them. I never heard of Matt Van Bibber, but he sounds credible, and I believe every thing he says.


Why would this guy have been let into the server room alone without himself having badge access?

Do you believe that the badge logs and server logs, including time of deletion of the server logs, synced with the time stamped video of this guy in the server room (which is there for you to see) was simply made up?
This post was edited on 8/2/22 at 10:54 am
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
7033 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:52 am to
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except every poll has Trump boatracing any democrat challenger including Biden.


2016 told us 'poll's mean nothing. If Trump runs he is getting boatraced perhaps even worse than 2024. People despise the guy and his 'base' isn't enough to win him an election. He needs Independents, Moderates, and suburban women to win. He got those votes in 2016 but didn't get them in 2020.

GHWB lost in '92 because Ross Perrot stole enough votes in the swing states to allow WJC to win. The same thing happened the HRC in 2016. Jill Stein got 51,000 votes in Michigan (Trump Michigan by ~14,000 votes). Stein got 49,000 votes in Pa (Trump won Pennsylvania by ~44,000 votes). Stein won 31,000 votes in Wisconsin (Trump won Wisconsin by ~23,000) votes. Jill Stein stole enough votes from HRC in the swing states in 2016 to cause HRC the election.

I am not saying that it is the only reason or the main reason why DJT lost in 2020, but it is the biggest reason that nobody hear talks about. The democrats did a good job of making sure liberal voters in the swing states stayed home and did not leave the party again in 2020 like they did in 2016.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
7033 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:53 am to

quote:

There is no way Biden got more votes than Black Jesus.


Sure there is. Based on mail in voting and running against a 'boogeyman' candidate. Obama had NEITHER of those things when he ran against McCain and Romney.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111565 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:54 am to
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The same thing happened the HRC in 2016. Jill Stein got 51,000 votes in Michigan (Trump Michigan by ~14,000 votes). Stein got 49,000 votes in Pa (Trump won Pennsylvania by ~44,000 votes). Stein won 31,000 votes in Wisconsin (Trump won Wisconsin by ~23,000) votes. Jill Stein stole enough votes from HRC in the swing states in 2016 to cause HRC the election.


Yes. 2016 was the first year with leftist independents on the ballot.

We are learning so much.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68813 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:55 am to
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Trump losing because he is disliked/hated by a huge swath of the American voting public which includes Moderates, Independents, and suburban housewives doesn't make the election not secure. Same result will happen in 2024. Wait and see.


you must be a suburban housewife that watches the view for your news.

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111565 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:57 am to
quote:

The democrats did a good job of making sure liberal voters in the swing states stayed home and did not leave the party again in 2020 like they did in 2016.


LINK
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They are the formerly loyal Democrats who unexpectedly voted for Trump. [Almost] a third of the counties that supported Obama in 2008 and 2012 broke for Trump in 2016. The vast majority of these places voted for Trump in 2020, often by wider margins. These defections are more surprising than the oft-mentioned Nixon Democrats in 1972 or Reagan Democrats in 1984. Those elections were landslides; thus, it is not surprising that Nixon and Reagan flipped many Democratic communities. The elections of 2016 and 2020, however, were not Republican landslides. Trump lost the popular vote. Yet he managed to win some of the most loyal Democratic communities in the nation.


You have a narrative without data points.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56603 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:59 am to
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Sounds like another investigation is in order!



Mark Finchem

You may want to write that name down.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68813 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:59 am to
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That doesn't prove 'fraud'. Something being 'illegal' (after the fact might I add) doesn't mean or prove 'fraud'. Do you understand this?


Fraud just means intent.

If i do something illegal and did it intentionally, its fraud. thats the difference between negligence and fraud, the intent.
This post was edited on 8/2/22 at 11:00 am
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56603 posts
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:59 am to
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Sounds like you don’t give a shite about safe elections.



He cares...he cares that they aren't valid. He wants the fraud because he needs it.
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