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re: Maricopa County IDs Election Workers Who Deleted Ariz. Audit Files.
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:16 am to BobBoucher
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:16 am to BobBoucher
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The proof of fraud is likely the data he deleted.
The proof of the deletion is the proof of the fraud.
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Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:18 am to ronricks
Hillary had higher favorables than Joe.
And Trump increased his vote count by over 11 million. More than any incumbent in American history.
He hit the bellwethers, he extended his reach with minorities, and won virtually all of the traditional election markers for a win.
So how did he lose? Simple. Prior to the "mail-in covid" votes being counted in the dark of night, he was winning by larger margins than in 2016. These questionable votes, some of which have been retroactively deemed illegal, and may being allowed by virtue of unprecedented gubernatorial emergency pandemic powers made the difference. It allowed a result that can never legitimately be challenged because the votes cant be traced and verified. Many were unsealed, unsigned, tampered with, or delivered after the election. But democrats knew this all along.
And Trump increased his vote count by over 11 million. More than any incumbent in American history.
He hit the bellwethers, he extended his reach with minorities, and won virtually all of the traditional election markers for a win.
So how did he lose? Simple. Prior to the "mail-in covid" votes being counted in the dark of night, he was winning by larger margins than in 2016. These questionable votes, some of which have been retroactively deemed illegal, and may being allowed by virtue of unprecedented gubernatorial emergency pandemic powers made the difference. It allowed a result that can never legitimately be challenged because the votes cant be traced and verified. Many were unsealed, unsigned, tampered with, or delivered after the election. But democrats knew this all along.
This post was edited on 8/2/22 at 10:20 am
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:19 am to hawkeye007
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it would take 30 days at least to count every ballot in a presidential election if every state used paper ballots.
No, it wouldn’t.
France votes on one day.
They use paper.
No early voting.
They announce the results within 24 hours.
The only reason it takes longer in the US with machines is that the results are manufactured. Not tabulated.
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:20 am to 1BIGTigerFan
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Did you hear that the Wisconsin Supreme Court ruled drop boxes are illegal and shouldn't have been used in 2020?
That doesn't prove 'fraud'. Something being 'illegal' (after the fact might I add) doesn't mean or prove 'fraud'. Do you understand this?
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:20 am to ronricks
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Am I as stupid as Sidney Powell, Lin Wood, or Rudy Giuliani? Because that was the brain trust that Trump trotted out there to prove all this 'fraud' you are talking about and they were laughed out of every courtroom because their evidence was such a joke.
You might be as stupid as them. They made poor arguments. Your argument is also poor.
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:22 am to ronricks
even the most dyed in the wool lefties in the media arent pretending that there was no fraud in 2020. Perhaps they argue it wasnt enough to make a difference, but they certainly arent arguing that it didnt happen. Just you.
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:22 am to ronricks
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The ONLY reason Trump won in 2016 is because his opponent was Hillary Clinton someone who is just as disliked as Trump is now. Independents, Moderates, and suburban housewives voted for Trump in 2016 which enabled him to win Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan by a combined 77,000 votes. Trump lost those groups in 2020 because of his erratic and brash braggart behavior. That is why Trump lost. It wasn't 'fraud', Dominion, Brad Raffensperger or anyone else. Trump screwed himself.
You are wish casting, obviously...and ignoring my post about what a disaster we would have if you were right.
You are very emotional about this topic...very clear TDS.
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:23 am to ronricks
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Something being 'illegal' (after the fact might I add) doesn't mean or prove 'fraud'. Do you understand this?
Do you understand the word “fraud”?
If I use deception to get something I want, is that fraud? If I use illegal means to win a contest, does that fit the common usage of fraud?
You’re a sophist.
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:26 am to Vacherie Saint
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Hillary had higher favorables than Joe.
This just isn't True. Hillary is a disliked and controversial figure even within her own party. Sound like someone you know?
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And Trump increased his vote count by over 11 million. More than any incumbent in American history.
Absolutely meaningless when your opponent gets more votes than you do. This literally means nothing.
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He hit the bellwethers, he extended his reach with minorities, and won virtually all of the traditional election markers for a win.
And still lost. Why? Because a shite ton of people came out to vote against Trump and not necessarily for Biden. It's pretty easy to understand.
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So how did he lose?
Trump lost because it was easier to vote than anytime in history and people come out in droves to vote against him. Nobody is denying Trump has an enthusiastic base of supporters but nationally those people are far outnumbered. Trump couldn't even beat Hillary in the popular vote for example and she is extremely disliked.
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:27 am to hawkeye007
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it would take 30 days at least to count every ballot in a presidential election if every state used paper ballots.
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:28 am to the808bass
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Do you understand the word “fraud”?
If I use deception to get something I want, is that fraud? If I use illegal means to win a contest, does that fit the common usage of fraud?
You’re a sophist.
Just because something is deemed 'illegal' it doesn't mean any fraud occurred. The time to declare drop boxes 'illegal' isn't 20 months after the election. Drop boxes existing doesn't mean they were filled with illegal ballots. Do you understand this?
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:28 am to ronricks
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They were voting AGAINST Donald Trump.
Trump grew his Vote total by over 11MM, the most in American presidential election history. More than Reagan in 1984!
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:29 am to ronricks
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That doesn't prove 'fraud'. Something being 'illegal' (after the fact might I add)
It was illegal before. And, of course it proves fraud.
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:29 am to ronricks
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Absolutely meaningless when your opponent gets more votes than you do. This literally means nothing.
This is how I know you’re stupid. You claim a candidate getting more votes than any candidate in the history of previous elections is meaningless.
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:29 am to ronricks
There were Hundreds of Republican Poll workers that were forced to stand so far away from the tables there was no way they could verify anything all in the name of being safe from The CCP Virus.
Many were also kicked out then counting resumed.
Many of these Folks have sworn Affidavits and are ready to testify in Court.
Many were also kicked out then counting resumed.
Many of these Folks have sworn Affidavits and are ready to testify in Court.
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Do you understand this?
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:32 am to moneyg
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You are very emotional about this topic...very clear TDS.
I'm a realist. Trump lost. Do I wish he has won? Of course I do. But he didn't and he has nobody to blame but himself. The guy continually shot himself in the foot over and over especially in 2020 leading up to the election. I'm not going to get that bent out of shape over someone who is essentially a carnival barker losing an election. shite happens time to move on. If you imbeciles run Trump again in 2024 the results will be the exact same even without the mail in voting. People will come out of the woodwork to vote against him.
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:33 am to ronricks
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Just because something is deemed 'illegal' it doesn't mean any fraud occurred. The time to declare drop boxes 'illegal' isn't 20 months after the election.
What happened to the cases filed against Wisconsin drop boxes before the election? Did they not cover that in your Reddit sub?
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:34 am to ronricks
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I'm a realist.
Your analysis is opposite of pretty much every poll out there (which historically are skewed away from Trump).
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But he didn't and he has nobody to blame but himself. The guy continually shot himself in the foot over and over especially in 2020 leading up to the election. I'm not going to get that bent out of shape over someone who is essentially a carnival barker losing an election. shite happens time to move on. If you imbeciles run Trump again in 2024 the results will be the exact same even without the mail in voting. People will come out of the woodwork to vote against him.
TDS
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:35 am to the808bass
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This is how I know you’re stupid. You claim a candidate getting more votes than any candidate in the history of previous elections is meaningless.
It is when his opponent gets even more. Both candidates were going to get a massive number of votes because of the situation/parameters surrounding the 2020 election.
People could vote from their couch. Trump is extremely disliked. He had horrible approval ratings in 2020. People weren’t voting for Biden they were voting against Donald Trump. Same exact result will happen in 2024. Nobody rallies Dems to vote like Trump does. He is toxic to most moderate, independent, and suburban female voters. Those are votes Trump has to get to have any shot of winning.
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:35 am to ronricks
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Drop boxes existing doesn't mean they were filled with illegal ballots. Do you understand this?
Would you like to flesh out your definition of “illegal ballot?”
“Legal ballots” are cast all the time that don’t get counted. Do you understand this?
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