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Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod president calls for excommunicating white nationalists

Posted on 2/23/23 at 8:47 am
Posted by djmed
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Posted on 2/23/23 at 8:47 am
Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod president calls for excommunicating white nationalists


(RNS) — The president of the Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod has called for the excommunication of unrepentant white supremacists in the church’s ranks, rebuking an extremist effort to exert influence within the conservative Lutheran denomination.

In a letter dated Feb. 21, LCMS President Matthew Harrison said he was “shocked to learn recently that a few members of LCMS congregations have been propagating radical and unchristian ‘alt-right’ views via Twitter and other social media.” He noted far-right members were causing “local disruption” for congregations and alleged that LCMS leadership and deaconesses had fallen victim to online threats, some of which he described as “serious.”

“This is evil. We condemn it in the name of Christ,” Harrison writes.

Harrison went on to rebuke the “horrible and racist teachings of the so-called ‘alt-right,’” listing ideologies such as “white supremacy, Nazism, pro-slavery, anti-interracial marriage, women as property, fascism, death for homosexuals, even genocide.”

He noted that while the LCMS is “not a top-down institution,” he would work with local pastors and district presidents “to address this matter wherever it arises among us and reject it.” Citing Scripture, he called on those spewing hateful ideologies to repent.

“Where that call to repentance is not heeded, there must be excommunication,” he writes.

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Posted by the_truman_shitshow
Member since Aug 2021
2755 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 8:48 am to
Started off with same-sex marriage.

They said that the Slippery Slope doesn't exist.

Look at where we are now.


Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21694 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 8:48 am to
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Harrison went on to rebuke the “horrible and racist teachings of the so-called ‘alt-right,’” listing ideologies such as “white supremacy, Nazism, pro-slavery, anti-interracial marriage, women as property, fascism, death for homosexuals, even genocide.”


Who is teaching this exactly? 2 dudes + 12 FBI agents in a cornfield in BFE Indiana?
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
11580 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 8:49 am to
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Started off with no-fault divorce. They said that the Slippery Slope doesn't exist. Look at where we are now.


FIFY
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64285 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 8:50 am to
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Who is teaching this exactly? 2 dudes + 12 FBI agents in a cornfield in BFE Indiana?


Well said.
Posted by the_truman_shitshow
Member since Aug 2021
2755 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 8:50 am to
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Who is teaching this exactly?


If you ask 5 people on the Left to define "white nationalism", I'd bet that they would all say different things.

This is the problem. It's such a blanket term that casts an infinitely wide net on anyone on the Right.
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
15675 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 8:52 am to
This isn’t going to help their dwindling numbers in the denomination.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
5801 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 8:55 am to


The header sez white nationionalists, preacher sez white supremacy . Two very different terms

supremacy may be bad
nationalist may be good

color got nothing to do with it
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
28597 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 9:00 am to
Show of hands who consider themselves a "White nationalist."

Remember the word game is that you can identify as a white and a nationalist and that's different than a "white nationalist."
Posted by Big Jim Slade
Member since Oct 2016
4921 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 9:01 am to
The church with “open arms” looking to ex communicate people with different views. Sounds like a social club more than a religion.
Posted by Hetfield
Dallas
Member since Jun 2013
6997 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 9:01 am to
Please specifically name the people who are teaching these things. We will all sit back & wait.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 2/23/23 at 9:16 am to
While I understand their concern for true hatred infiltrating the Church through the "white nationalist" movement (it's my understanding that the true "movement" is very small), given how the term is used these days to apply to white people who are nationalistic but not necessarily racist or supremacist, the Synod president needs to consider the divisive nature of their condemnation in light of other, more prominent ideologies of hatred right now, such as anti-white sentiments that are getting a lot of free air time.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 2/23/23 at 9:16 am to
The church that alters itself to bring in more people tends to lose itself as well as lose its congregation.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 2/23/23 at 9:31 am to
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pro-slavery
Huh? I have never heard anyone advocate for slavery, not even hardcore neo-nazis and Klan guys.

Of all the institutions they've marched through, the ease with which they took the churches blows my mind.
Posted by Tigers2010a
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 2/23/23 at 9:35 am to
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Who is teaching this exactly? 2 dudes + 12 FBI agents in a cornfield in BFE Indiana?





This one is a favorite at FBI HQ.
This post was edited on 2/23/23 at 9:41 am
Posted by Rex Feral
Athens
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 2/23/23 at 9:39 am to
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“Where that call to repentance is not heeded, there must be excommunication,” he writes.



Posted by mulletproof
Shambala
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 2/23/23 at 10:27 am to
Is that like when Michael Scott declared bankruptcy? Does that involved unsprinkling you with consecrated water?
Posted by USMCguy121
Northshore
Member since Aug 2021
6332 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 10:39 am to
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white supremacy, Nazism, pro-slavery, anti-interracial marriage, women as property, fascism, death for homosexuals, even genocide.”


Excommunicate them so they become Muslims?

Yeah makes sense.
Posted by Liberator
Ephesians 6:10-16
Member since Jul 2020
8386 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 11:06 am to
Why isn't this actual "Hate" and slander of certain select people (Whitey OR Males OR Christians) cited for "Hate Speech" or "Hate Crimes"?

And now the hypocrisy and blind hate spread to the Churches.

Thank the SPLC and JDL (and Globalist agenda) for ironically spearheading what were always divide & conquer phony laws.

Isn't it waaaay past time that Republicans sack-up and address legislation that removes ALL illegal, unconstitutional, unequal application of BS "Civil Rights" laws designed to demonize specific demographics.

This post was edited on 2/23/23 at 11:07 am
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112423 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 11:26 am to
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pro-slavery


There are pro-slavery people in the Lutheran church? Who the hell wants a slave?
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