re: LSU "Holistic" admissions?

So you are saying Pimp Jr has a chance ?

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Pretty sure admissions isn’t a problem either. I want to say each year has been a new “record class” lately.

Yep. This years class is touted as the “largest and most diverse freshman class ever”

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So you think LSU doesn't want MOAR money???


And you are basically right about class size, though there was a slight dip post TOPS cut/baton rouge shootings. Hard to know which was the bigger issue. They rebounded from that pretty quickly in any case.

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LSU's standards aren't very high to begin with

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What most of our high schools produce today isn't going to make it in any academic endeavor that actually is based upon academic ability.

Don't get me started on my nemesis - high school grade inflation.

It is an epidemic. Failing a grade was common place when I went to school. It is nearly impossible due to floor grades - which gives you high school graduates that functionally illiterate on one end.

I worked with a senior a couple years ago that was a 4.4 weighted GPA student at a good high school. She was the cheerleader/homecoming queen type and she wanted to be a doctor. In her words "she didn't want to waste the mind that she had been blessed with."

She was dumb as shite. Her ACT score reflected that. She was actually looking at having to take a remedial English class before she got that part to above 18. All because of grade inflation and the fact that kids are taught that a B is as bad as an F and the lie that "some students don't take standardized tests very well."

And holistic admissions is a crock. I'm a proponent of sliding scale admissions instead of hard GPA/test scores, but this holistic approach is bullshite. Someone wrote Black Lives Matter 100 times on a piece of paper and got into Stanford.

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LSU's standards aren't very high to begin with

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This, and they are sadly are higher than any other state school. If you qualify for LSU, you definitely have TOPs.

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Proponents also argue it will help with diversity

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And so it will. It will improve the ratio of the stupid and the extraordinarily stupid students in each class.

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If I were a college, I'd rather a student with a 3.4 GPA who can articulate ideas clearly than a 3.9 student who can't write worth a damn.

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Oversimplification really.

Tell me more about this 3.4 student vs the 3.9 student.

Did the 3.4 student come from an academically challenging high school? High ACT score? etc.

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Kid with 3.9 GPA from a traditional public school (non-magnet, known to be easier, no AP credits, weak electives, etc.)? Average ACT score? etc.

Holistic approach is bullshite because there is no accountability and subjective. Selection committees are largely tenured faculty and employees with civil service protect. Their decisions are rarely evaluated and membership is not challenged. They are largely governed by some subjective idea of the perfect student body. The perfect student body idea is almost never vetted to alumni, the student body, the public (who pays a large bill of the university), or even the administration itself. It is some rainbow ideal of what THEY want, some social engineering process.

IF they would be so bold as to be transparent with the process and publishing to everyone the ideal student body, I would listen. Until then, this is a stupid idea.

GD you anc. I agree with you 100%.

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Your 28 to 36 scores generally are going to go to another university besides LSU. So by having a hard admission standard of 23 your pool is really limited to 23-27 scores.

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Why can't L$U lower its ACT requirement to 21 from 23 instead of taking Holi$tic review?