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re: Louisiana's 'Don't Say Gay' bill shot down in 4-7 committee vote

Posted on 5/3/22 at 4:22 pm to
Posted by tharre4
Member since Jan 2015
617 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 4:22 pm to
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No wonder it failed


The bill could be amended during during a full floor vote right?
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 4:23 pm to
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perhaps things have just changed.


Maybe, but not all change is good.



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Believe it or not, some teachers actually really care about their students and want them to do well.


Agreed.

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Research has shown over and over that forming a good relationship with students produces much better results overall.



You can have a good relationship with student (or anyone for that matter) and remain professional and keep your personal life out of it. This is not an either/or situation. This has become a choice that teachers make to reveal this information unnecessarily.

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Seems like you would be very happy with just online classes taught by a recording though.


I'd be happier if teachers did the job for which they were hired, and saved talk about their personal lives for their friends, family, other adults, etc.
Posted by Bearcat90
The Land
Member since Nov 2021
2955 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 4:25 pm to
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perhaps things have just changed. Believe it or not, some teachers actually really care about their students and want them to do well. Research has shown over and over that forming a good relationship with students produces much better results overall.

Seems like you would be very happy with just online classes taught by a recording though.


We don't need teachers to be our kids buddies, pals or friends.

Teach them the R's, dammit!!!
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
87502 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 4:27 pm to
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I'd be happier if teachers did the job for which they were hired, and saved talk about their personal lives for their friends, family, other adults, etc.


When I was in school (1970s - early 1980s), our teachers kept their personal lives to themselves. It was none of our business. And guess what? The educations we received were just fine and dandy.
Posted by AUHighPlainsDrifter
South Carolina
Member since Sep 2017
3213 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 4:27 pm to
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No wonder it failed. Why not just keep it exactly like the Florida bill? That’s why the Florida bill passed with bipartisan support and why LA’s couldn’t even get out of committee. Stupid move.


That's what I was thinking, dude. It almost sounds like another one of those bills that are intentionally written so that they won't pass. There is an election coming up, after-all....got to have some material for the campaign commercials!
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84437 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 4:28 pm to
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HB-837 would have restricted discussion through grade 8,


We took sex ed in middle school at a Catholic school. Do public schools have sex ed then and would this have done away with it?
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 4:29 pm to
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When I was in school (1970s - early 1980s), our teachers kept their personal lives to themselves. It was none of our business.


And if we asked, they'd tell us to mind our business and get back to work.

Somehow I managed without knowing who they were banging every weekend...
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
88673 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 4:29 pm to
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perhaps things have just changed. Believe it or not, some teachers actually really care about their students and want them to do well.


So hearing about my teachers' sex lives and relationships would have gotten me better grades? Who knew
Posted by RTRinTampa
Central FL
Member since Jan 2013
5532 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 4:30 pm to
Well, at least you know which GOPers support grooming for next election.
Posted by RTRinTampa
Central FL
Member since Jan 2013
5532 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 4:31 pm to
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At this rate, you'd be better off living in an actual third world country.


In all seriousness, most are less violent.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52012 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 4:32 pm to
Quit calling it “Don’t say gay”. That is what it was named by the left in order to discredit it. It is not representative of what is in the bill, which is Anti Groomer, and that’s just what we should be calling it.

You have capitulated to the MSM!
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42003 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 4:32 pm to
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You can have a good relationship with student (or anyone for that matter) and remain professional and keep your personal life out of it. This is not an either/or situation. This has become a choice that teachers make to reveal this information unnecessarily.


Posted by bayouvette
Raceland
Member since Oct 2005
5579 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 4:33 pm to
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Anyone who loves their children doesn't send them to Louisiana public schools anyways


If you "love your child" you would be involved in their school enough to know what they are teaching or not teaching.
Posted by RTRinTampa
Central FL
Member since Jan 2013
5532 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 4:34 pm to
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We took sex ed in middle school at a Catholic school.


I'll bet you didn't get gay butt sex or pedo ed.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
100363 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 4:35 pm to
Good. Passing that may have kept businesses from investing in Louisiana














/s
Posted by tharre4
Member since Jan 2015
617 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 4:37 pm to
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Quit calling it “Don’t say gay”. That is what it was named by the left in order to discredit it


I copied and pasted directly from the article. clam down, Karen
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20311 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 4:38 pm to
I have no problem with teachers keeping their mouths shut about their sexual orientation period, whether gay or straight.

It has no bearing on the curriculum.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
35843 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 4:54 pm to
Who is the genius author of this Bill? I want to call him and laugh and berate .
Posted by TheDude854
Member since May 2019
392 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 5:03 pm to
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I have no problem with teachers keeping their mouths shut about their sexual orientation period, whether gay or straight. It has no bearing on the curriculum.


I have no problem with it either. I just don’t think we need a law banning teachers from saying anything that “has no bearing on the curriculum.” By that standard, the teacher couldn’t say Who Dat, or Go Tigers, or Roll Tide, or War Eagle, etc etc on a Monday morning after a big win.

I’m 100% for a law written like the Fla law. I think the LA bill was written to fail. If you want to blame someone, blame the author of the bill for playing politics instead of protecting the children.
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
26323 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 5:04 pm to
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Believe it or not, some teachers actually really care about their students and want them to do well.


Or maybe no one their age wants to hear their sob stories so they lay it on children who dont know any better.

Who knows?

GTFO with this shite. If you care about a student, you focus on their academics, not sexual orientations.
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