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re: Louisiana Gov. Jeff Landry bans teaching of critical race theory in schools

Posted on 8/28/24 at 5:45 pm to
Posted by Mandtgr47
Member since Aug 2024
7918 posts
Posted on 8/28/24 at 5:45 pm to
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There is no place


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for Critical Race Theory.


fixed it
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
21290 posts
Posted on 8/28/24 at 6:20 pm to
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Sure. Banning things that aren’t happening is a great way to positively impact our state.

Then you should have no problem with it.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34286 posts
Posted on 8/28/24 at 7:48 pm to
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Banning things that aren’t happening

ummmmm
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The task of removing “embedded” critical race theory from the committee’s final draft became state officials’ focus after hundreds of people submitted comments complaining the standards cast American history in an overly negative light and could be used to indoctrinate students.

In response, State Superintendent of Education Cade Brumley and other officials rewrote the educator-drafted standards“ to ensure none were CRT-based.” The state’s standards, which differ significantly from the committee’s in content, language and approach, were advanced to the state's board of education last month and approved unanimously despite committee pushback.

Dont pretend it isnt happening
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State officials removed the committee’s many references to “diverse groups,” the words “diversity,” “equity” and mentions of Latinos, refugees and people who identify as LGBT or disabled, according to New Orleans Public Radio’s review of the documents.

“Just the fact that they removed the word diversity and diverse is problematic, and it also just sort of underscores and underlines the point that diversity isn’t what came out of these standards — it’s what was removed from these standards,” said committee member Aaron Jura, a curriculum writer and former social studies teacher.

Another word removed by the state during its significant rewrite was “limitations,” which appeared in the committee’s version nine times, often in reference to restrictions placed by the government and society on different groups of people.

These were the recommended K-12 standards, btw
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Committee member Nikki Patterson, a former social studies teacher in Assumption Parish said she looks back on the June meeting as the beginning of the end. “At that point in time it really resonated with me that we were no longer looking at those five guiding principles, but now we were trying to coddle adults and not teach students,” she said.

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Then the cuts began. An overarching skill called “taking informed action,” meant to promote civic engagement was removed.

Gee, I wonder why?
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Teachers who want to go beyond the state’s standards and cover things like the Chicano Movement or the Stonewall Riots, they’ll have to figure out how to do that on their own. “It’s going to be up to teachers to do the heavy lifting, and they are going to have to do that without the resources, without the funding and without the expertise of folks who had the expertise and were doing this work,” he said.

Eventually they admit to what the real purpose is: indoctrinate children and have their parents taxes pay for that privilege
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
25322 posts
Posted on 8/28/24 at 7:53 pm to
.Thats OK... Jeff is making sure they don't!
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15718 posts
Posted on 8/28/24 at 8:25 pm to
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I’ve literally never advocated for any of those things.


Well I looked for your threads whining about those things like you’re whining about not being able to teach children that whitey is bad and couldn’t find any.

And if you votes democrat, you are in fact, advocating for those things.
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
21770 posts
Posted on 8/28/24 at 8:29 pm to
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When did conservatives start embracing cancel culture?


You don’t know what cancel culture means.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61463 posts
Posted on 8/28/24 at 8:29 pm to
“I couldn’t find any proof that you do these things but I’m sure you’re doing them anyway!”
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128846 posts
Posted on 8/28/24 at 8:38 pm to
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An overarching skill called “taking informed action,” meant to promote civic engagement was removed.


Promoting civic engagement is always code for leftist protesting. Promoting civic engagement is never advocating for patriotism or right-leaning protesting.

It’s the blue print from Freire’s “Pedagogy of the Oppressed,” which has wholly captured the Education Colleges of America or the Americas.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128846 posts
Posted on 8/28/24 at 8:39 pm to
You’re too dumb to be in this conversation.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15718 posts
Posted on 8/28/24 at 9:21 pm to
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I couldn’t find any proof that you do these things but I’m sure you’re doing them anyway!”


You’re more than welcome to link the threads you started complaining about JBE’s Covid mandates but you won’t be able to because no such thread exists. The reason no such thread exists is because you supported those things.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61463 posts
Posted on 8/28/24 at 9:26 pm to
I took about a ten year break from posting. Covid fell during that time, as did JBE’s tenure as gov. I didn’t really post 2012-2023.
This post was edited on 8/28/24 at 9:28 pm
Posted by Semper Gumby
Member since Dec 2021
649 posts
Posted on 8/28/24 at 10:57 pm to
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What school in Louisiana utilizes this type of curriculum? Seems like you’re assuming this is happening but do you have actual evidence?


As I said in a previous reply, University Lab School is in fact using CRT in its curriculum as early as 4th grade.

It is no coincidence that William Tate is the president of LSU and was appointed during JBE's tenure. If you research Tate, all of his professional writings are related to CRT. The man was brought to head Louisiana's flagship educational institution for the purpose of injecting CRT into education at all levels throughout the state. I'm sure LSU Board of Supervisors member Collis Temple Jr., one of Baton Rouge's "whitey is bad" advocates was a huge supporter of Tate for this purpose. Any assertion otherwise is willful blindness. But, hey go tigers.
This post was edited on 8/28/24 at 11:13 pm
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28192 posts
Posted on 8/28/24 at 11:06 pm to
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“I couldn’t find any proof that you do these things but I’m sure you’re doing them anyway!”


It really chaps my arse that something that was never happening won’t happen in the future.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35945 posts
Posted on 8/28/24 at 11:07 pm to
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There is no evidence these courses are being taught to children and teenagers.


Well then banning it shouldn’t rustle any jimmies.
Posted by charlesmartinmike
North Alabama
Member since Mar 2009
456 posts
Posted on 8/28/24 at 11:21 pm to
Only got to page two, but I wanted to point out something that’s been overlooked so far.

There is no evidence that something exists does not mean that there is evidence that something doesn’t exist.

What the hell is evidence here? Has somebody reviewed every moment of school and made a report?
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61463 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 5:03 am to
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What the hell is evidence here?


A piece of curriculum? An assignment. An assessment.

Our proof that this happens in Louisiana k-12 public schools is a tweet about a daycare in another state.

Or some jackass naming schools in Missouri. Not really compelling evidence.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61463 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 5:16 am to
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Okay, cool. That still doesn't mean that race is a social construct. People of different races are different races due to genetics. Saying that race is a social construct is similar to saying that gender is a social construct. Both of these things are determined by genetics. That doesn't mean that you have to treat people of different races differently, but it is a genetic attribute and not something that was just "made up" by society.


The emphasis on race as the single most significant factor indicating superiority or inferiority is socially constructed. Eye color is determined by genetics but no one is asked to indicate their eye color on paperwork aside from maybe their license. People aren’t categorized by society according to eye color. Laws haven’t been passed regulating what people with certain eye colors are allowed to do.

Posted by rwestmore7
Member since Nov 2007
1004 posts
Posted on 8/30/24 at 9:30 am to
Florida

LINK
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
80030 posts
Posted on 8/30/24 at 9:45 am to
So you accept the words of opponents without actually reading what is printed in full context? Are opponents of something always non-biased? Have you seen the lesson? I haven't. I'll wait to see it.
Posted by rwestmore7
Member since Nov 2007
1004 posts
Posted on 8/30/24 at 10:12 am to
It's interesting that you're willing to dismiss concerns about how slavery is being taught based on a wait and see approach, but then support a ban on CRT without any evidence that it's even being taught in Louisiana schools. Have you seen a CRT lesson being taught here? I haven’t either because it’s not happening. We’re addressing a non-issue while ignoring the real challenges our schools face. If we’re going to demand full context and evidence, shouldn’t we apply that same standard to the push against CRT?
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