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re: Louisiana Gov. Jeff Landry bans teaching of critical race theory in schools
Posted on 8/30/24 at 10:23 am to 4cubbies
Posted on 8/30/24 at 10:23 am to 4cubbies
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The emphasis on race as the single most significant factor indicating superiority or inferiority is socially constructed.
This is where you insert opinion and jump the shark. Race is not a social construct. Now do people on both sides of the coin use race as a way to treat people of different races differently? Absolutely, but race in itself is definitely not a social construct. Racial stereotypes are a social construct, but no one in this thread is promoting the use of those.
Your argument is akin to saying that gender is a social construct because people of different genders are treated differently in society. Gender in itself is not a social construct either, gender roles are a social construct (to an extent), but gender itself is not a social construct.
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Posted on 8/30/24 at 10:28 am to rwestmore7
quote:Then why are you and others so upset about it?
Have you seen a CRT lesson being taught here? I haven’t either because it’s not happening
quote:I recall several bills being passed this last session that addressed issues with schools. You realize they can deal with multiple facets at one time, correct?
We’re addressing a non-issue while ignoring the real challenges our schools face
quote:We know what CRT teaches. Whether you think it is being taught or not they are choosing to prevent it either way.
If we’re going to demand full context and evidence, shouldn’t we apply that same standard to the push against CRT?
This post was edited on 8/30/24 at 10:31 am
Posted on 8/30/24 at 10:30 am to 4cubbies
Yea!!!! Ban something that wasn't happening in the first place.
Posted on 8/30/24 at 10:30 am to 4cubbies
Good to see Gov Landry is doing the work we voted for!
Posted on 8/30/24 at 10:36 am to Jake88
What I’m concerned about is how this issue is being used as a distraction. Landry’s executive order is more about political posturing than solving any real problems in our education system. All it does is piss off the other side and divide us further, making it even harder to get anything bipartisan done in the future.
Yes, I’m aware that multiple issues can be addressed at once, but when you make a big show out of an executive order against something that isn’t even being taught, it makes you question the priorities. This kind of divisive action only deepens the political rift, making bipartisan efforts more difficult. We should be focusing on laws or initiatives that directly improve our schools, like funding, resources, or teacher support, rather than creating unnecessary conflict.
We might know what CRT teaches in higher education, but it’s not part of the K-12 curriculum here. Banning something that isn’t even present in our schools seems like a solution in search of a problem. If the goal is to ensure a balanced and honest education, we should be focusing on what is actually being taught, rather than stirring up fear about something that isn’t.
Yes, I’m aware that multiple issues can be addressed at once, but when you make a big show out of an executive order against something that isn’t even being taught, it makes you question the priorities. This kind of divisive action only deepens the political rift, making bipartisan efforts more difficult. We should be focusing on laws or initiatives that directly improve our schools, like funding, resources, or teacher support, rather than creating unnecessary conflict.
We might know what CRT teaches in higher education, but it’s not part of the K-12 curriculum here. Banning something that isn’t even present in our schools seems like a solution in search of a problem. If the goal is to ensure a balanced and honest education, we should be focusing on what is actually being taught, rather than stirring up fear about something that isn’t.
Posted on 8/30/24 at 10:42 am to rwestmore7
This will be forgotten in 2 weeks. You're making a mountain out of a molehill.
Posted on 8/30/24 at 10:43 am to 4cubbies
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The emphasis on race as the single most significant factor indicating superiority or inferiority is socially constructed.
This is the typical leftist fantasy land. As Murray Rothbard said, "Egalitarianism as a revolt against nature". You hate that different races have different outcomes so you explain it away as "socially constructed" as if humans just made it up on the fly.
Whether you like it are not, race is 100% real. It's in your DNA bc of thousands of years of evolution. Trust the science.
Posted on 8/30/24 at 11:12 am to Jake88
Landry made a mountain out of a molehill.
Posted on 8/30/24 at 11:48 am to KiwiHead
yeah my issue with Jeff in general, this is more empty calorie legislation that only serves the purpose of getting him national headlines and FB shares from old people.
Posted on 8/30/24 at 12:14 pm to 4cubbies
Tate says it’s happening. Remember he wrote numerous papers outlining the benefits of CRT. Tate will need to rename this dept at LSU. Oh yeah. He already did that. Just need a few more BR proud commercials and we gunna have more ships than the US Navy speeches.
Posted on 8/30/24 at 12:39 pm to 4cubbies
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Useless legislation matters to me.
I'm sure you're just a regular ol Ron Paul level thrifter.
Posted on 8/30/24 at 1:03 pm to loogaroo
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Too bad he didn’t include LSU.
Tate would fight it if he did. I wish he would disband the DEI department at LSU like UF did, but that won’t happen as long as Tate is president.
Posted on 8/30/24 at 1:17 pm to rwestmore7
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We might know what CRT teaches in higher education, but it’s not part of the K-12 curriculum here.
This is obviously false.
I’m 100% positive that the following concepts are present in Louisiana schools, through both approved curriculum and supplementary training to educators and materials and assessments used by the schools.
Whiteness
White privilege
Equity
Systemic racism
Decolonization
Cultural competence
Culturally relevant social emotional learning
Posted on 8/30/24 at 3:41 pm to the808bass
Just like Governor Landry, it seems you don’t even know what CRT actually means. What you’re describing is not CRT. These are concepts used in broader discussions about diversity and inclusion, not Critical Race Theory. CRT is an advanced academic theory taught in law schools, not something kids are learning in K-12 classrooms.
By lumping everything related to race and equity under the label of CRT, you’re oversimplifying and misrepresenting what’s actually happening in schools. Teaching students about different perspectives and the reality of systemic issues isn’t indoctrination, and it certainly isn’t CRT. Maybe it’s time to actually learn what CRT is before throwing the term around so carelessly.
By lumping everything related to race and equity under the label of CRT, you’re oversimplifying and misrepresenting what’s actually happening in schools. Teaching students about different perspectives and the reality of systemic issues isn’t indoctrination, and it certainly isn’t CRT. Maybe it’s time to actually learn what CRT is before throwing the term around so carelessly.
Posted on 8/30/24 at 4:53 pm to rwestmore7
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These are concepts used in broader discussions about diversity and inclusion, not Critical Race Theory.
I obviously know more about it than you do after that pitifully idiotic statement. frick yourself.
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CRT is not a diversity and inclusion “training” but a practice of interrogating the role of race and racism in society that emerged in the legal academy and spread to other fields of scholarship. Crenshaw—who coined the term “CRT”—notes that CRT is not a noun, but a verb. It cannot be confined to a static and narrow definition but is considered to be an evolving and malleable practice. It critiques how the social construction of race and institutionalized racism perpetuate a racial caste system that relegates people of color to the bottom tiers. CRT also recognizes that race intersects with other identities, including sexuality, gender identity, and others. CRT recognizes that racism is not a bygone relic of the past. Instead, it acknowledges that the legacy of slavery, segregation, and the imposition of second-class citizenship on Black Americans and other people of color continue to permeate the social fabric of this nation.
That’s the ABA. They agree that your statement is idiotic.
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The core idea is that race is a social construct, and that racism is not merely the product of individual bias or prejudice, but also something embedded in legal systems and policies.
That’s Education Week talking about how CRT is talking about “systemic racism.”
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CRT also has ties to other intellectual currents, including the work of sociologists and literary theorists who studied links between political power, social organization, and language. And its ideas have since informed other fields, like the humanities, the social sciences, and teacher education.
Oh. So more of what I said.
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Critical race theory is not a synonym for culturally relevant teaching, which emerged in the 1990s. This teaching approach seeks to affirm students’ ethnic and racial backgrounds and is intellectually rigorous. But it’s related in that one of its aims is to help students identify and critique the causes of social inequality in their own lives.
Oh look. More of what I said.
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Not only are people talking about race, they are talking about critical race theory (CRT) and having important conversations about the role of systemic racism in our country and across the globe.
That’s a person who identifies as a CRT scholar.
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CRT started as a legal theory that illustrates how racism becomes institutionalized, even though discrimination is illegal. It has since branched out, but the essence remains — to show how race and racism continue to operate across various systems, interrogating their role in society.
More from that same scholar.
Now shut the frick up about things you don’t know anything about.
Posted on 8/30/24 at 4:56 pm to the808bass
rwestmore7 busting up 808bass is hilarious.
Posted on 8/30/24 at 4:56 pm to Warrior Court
It’s obviously something you couldn’t do. And your mom is still a whore.
Posted on 8/30/24 at 5:13 pm to the808bass
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It’s obviously something you couldn’t do. And your mom is still a whore.
hrm you're not very good at this. rwestmore7 can finish up with you.
Posted on 8/30/24 at 5:45 pm to Warrior Court
I’m not sure he’s started. It’s obviously a subject beyond your ken. I appreciate you dropping in, though.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 7:49 am to AlterDWI
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Whether you like it are not, race is 100% real. It's in your DNA bc of thousands of years of evolution. Trust the science.
This must be why Asian people can’t receive blood from African or European people. This explains why someone with black skin can’t donate an organ to someone with white skin. Right? The biological differences between races are just too great.
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