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re: Louisiana Gov. Jeff Landry bans teaching of critical race theory in schools

Posted on 8/31/24 at 7:55 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 8/31/24 at 7:55 am to
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it seems you don’t even know what CRT actually means.


Its communism.


Critical theory came from the same commie think tanks in Europe, and then Critical Race Theory started in law schools in the 70s and 80s.

Its just rehashed marxism with words than make you vapid bitches feel important.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61466 posts
Posted on 8/31/24 at 8:04 am to
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Its communism.


How does CRT mean that the state owns the means of production?

CRT is not an economic system. Communism is an economic system.

For saying “communism” so much, you don’t have a clue what it even is.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98279 posts
Posted on 8/31/24 at 8:08 am to
What great news for Louisiana

There is no need for that garbage in schools
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28173 posts
Posted on 8/31/24 at 8:09 am to
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How does CRT mean that the state owns the means of production?


Gov has to step in to create equity.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28192 posts
Posted on 8/31/24 at 8:12 am to
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CRT is not an economic system.


Not technically, but it does invent a problem that only has one solution, and they're not shy about telling you what that solution is. Hell, they've already implemented it to the extent they can get away with.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61466 posts
Posted on 8/31/24 at 8:16 am to
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Gov has to step in to create equity.


CRT acknowledges that races aren’t haven’t been treated equally. The fantasy perpetuated here is the slaves were treated the same as the planter class. There is a fantasy of everyone is and has always been treated equally that you and your buddies are preaching, not CRT.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98279 posts
Posted on 8/31/24 at 8:18 am to
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CRT acknowledges that races aren’t haven’t been treated equally. The fantasy perpetuated here is the slaves were treated the same as the planter class. There is a fantasy of everyone is and has always been treated equally that you and your buddies are preaching, not CRT.


This is some of the dumbest shite ever

You progtards are the worst
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 8/31/24 at 8:37 am to
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The fantasy perpetuated here is the slaves were treated the same as the planter class.


The poverty and violence in the black community has nothing to do with us

And we have nothing to apologize for
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
80030 posts
Posted on 8/31/24 at 8:41 am to
quote]The fantasy perpetuated here is the slaves were treated the same as the planter class[/quote]Who says this? During the 70s and 80s we were taught that it was brutal.
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There is a fantasy of everyone is and has always been treated equally that you and your buddies are preaching,
Who says that?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128846 posts
Posted on 8/31/24 at 9:48 am to
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How does CRT mean that the state owns the means of production?


Posts like this show how absolutely ignorant you are on a topic you’re trying to hold forth on.

CRT is explicitly Marxist.
Posted by rwestmore7
Member since Nov 2007
1004 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 9:03 am to
It’s cute that you went to all that trouble to quote sources, but you still managed to miss the point. CRT is a complex academic theory that originated in legal studies and is mostly taught in universities. It’s about analyzing how race and racism are embedded in legal systems and institutions. That’s not what’s happening in K-12 schools, where the focus is on broader discussions about diversity, equity, and history.

The fact that you had to give such a detailed explanation just proves how complex CRT really is, exactly the kind of complexity that isn’t being taught to kids in K-12. You’re mixing up basic educational concepts with an advanced theory, which just proves my point. Just because schools are teaching kids about the reality of systemic racism doesn’t mean they’re teaching CRT. Next time, maybe try understanding the difference before going on a rant. But hey, nice try.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87384 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 9:07 am to
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That’s not what’s happening in K-12 schools, where the focus is on broader discussions about diversity, equity, and history.


LOL

I'm your huckleberry

Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
33618 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 9:51 am to
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Something that has never happened will continue not happening.
So you’re disappointed that you can’t teach CRT?

If it wasn’t happening, why are you big mad?

Posted by rwestmore7
Member since Nov 2007
1004 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 9:54 am to
Are you worried that kids might actually learn the uncomfortable truth that white people owned slaves and that systemic racism has been a part of our history. Newsflash: Teaching kids about the realities of our past and the ongoing impacts of racism isn’t the same thing as indoctrinating them with some advanced legal theory. It’s called education. If you’re scared of kids learning the truth, maybe that says more about you than it does about the curriculum.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87384 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 10:08 am to
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white people owned slaves


Learned by pretty much everyone in the 70s, 80s and beyond

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that systemic racism has been a part of our history


This will need to be defined

Here's Kimberle Crenshaw talking about the weak efforts to disguise CRT and deny the existence of CRT progeny (DEI and equity narratives) when coming under conservative attack (ie, your effort here):

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We’re now in a catch-up game, one in which I think that the initial instincts of some of our allies to run is shown to be counterproductive. They were trying to run or trying to say: Well, we’re not woke. Or: We’re not critical race theory. That’s not really going to protect equity because what they’re after is equity, not the lenses or the specific ways of capturing inequity. They’re after efforts to address inequity. And that you can’t outrun. You have to turn around and fight it.

Posted by rwestmore7
Member since Nov 2007
1004 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 10:16 am to
Thanks for the history lesson, but it seems like you’re still missing the point. Just because everyone learned that white people owned slaves doesn’t mean we’ve always fully addressed the ongoing impacts of systemic racism.

As for your quote from Kimberle Crenshaw, it actually reinforces what I’m saying: CRT is about understanding and addressing inequity, but that’s not what’s being directly taught in K-12 classrooms. The fact that you have to reach for academic discussions about CRT just shows how far removed it is from basic education about diversity and history.

At the end of the day, in my opinion teaching kids about the realities of racism and its lasting impacts isn’t some secret plot to push CRT, it’s about giving them a complete education so we can do better as a society. If that makes you uncomfortable, maybe it’s worth asking why.
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
23921 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 10:19 am to
Found the racist teacher who’s upset their not allowed to put some white children in their place
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128846 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 10:20 am to
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CRT is a complex academic theory that originated in legal studies and is mostly taught in universities. It’s about analyzing how race and racism are embedded in legal systems and institutions. That’s not what’s happening in K-12 schools, where the focus is on broader discussions about diversity, equity, and history.


I more than adequately demonstrated how 1) CRT is no longer just a “complex academic theory taught in law school.” And 2) how the ideas which are the framework of CRT are explicitly present in the K-12 curricula, lesson plans and teacher training.

You’re playing a shell game. When I show that Zinn’s history curricula are explicitly based in critical studies, you’ll fall back to the response of “Good, kids should be learning about history through the framework of oppressor/oppressed.” I couldn’t care less to engage in that dogshit argument.
Posted by rwestmore7
Member since Nov 2007
1004 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 10:21 am to
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their


they're (it's a contraction meaning they are)

Luckily for you, I'm a white male and not a teacher, so your theory doesn't pan out
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128846 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 10:21 am to
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always fully addressed the ongoing impacts of systemic racism.


This isn’t history. It’s an interpretive theory laid on top of history. Sue what institution gave you your degree. You’re almost retarded.
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