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re: Los Angeles voters to decide if hotel owners can be forced to house the homeless

Posted on 8/7/22 at 10:39 am to
Posted by VolcanicTiger
Member since Apr 2022
5933 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 10:39 am to
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Why don’t you host these folks?
It's against his CBOA (cardboard box owners association) rules.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61239 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 10:40 am to
I hope they vote in favor just for the lolz.
Posted by Vandyrone
Nashville, TN
Member since Dec 2012
6961 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 10:41 am to
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Why don’t you host these folks?

There’s only enough room in her studio apartment for her and her 8 cats.
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Member since Jul 2019
4387 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 10:43 am to
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This is the worst idea I’ve ever seen.


Par for course when it comes to Libtopians. Give em time and they’ll even top this with their wonderfully inept minds.
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
16224 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 10:49 am to
Lot of hotels will shut down if that happens.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21757 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 10:50 am to
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I wish you would go there and a bum would give you monkey pox in multiple openings.


He/she/zir is afraid to leave the house with the deadly Covid disease running rampant.
Posted by TeaParty
Member since May 2022
935 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 10:51 am to
Anyone who votes for this should have to house the homeless first and continue until the law is changed.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 10:56 am to
Whoever votes yes should have to house em in their homes
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30007 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 10:56 am to
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Los Angeles voters to decide if hotel owners can be forced to house the homeless


translation - socialist america hating voters decide to take hotel owners property from them and confiscate it for public use
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64658 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 10:58 am to
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Kind of reminds me of property owners being forced to house British solders.


Keep pushing the damn envelope.
Posted by ruzil
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
16905 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 10:59 am to
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NorCal is such a cesspool


Apparently, SoCal is too.
Posted by BobABooey
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2004
14273 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 11:08 am to
This is already being done in south Texas and no vote was necessary. The federal government has been paying for large blocs of hotel rooms at above-market rates to house illegal immigrants. Seasonal workers who rely on those affordable rooms have no place to stay. The locals hate it. The people who depend on the affordable temporary housing hate it. The hotel owners love it because they are making a killing and the illegals are usually processed and moved before they can do too much damage. The owners aren’t in a hurry to keep the rooms in great condition anyway.
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
19289 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 11:10 am to
In the many videos out there, in interviews with homeless people, over & over again there is confirmation that the majority of them are addicts. And addicts are always stealing to support their habits. Those rooms would be stripped bare within a matter of days. And what's to force them to stay in their rooms? They'd be hanging out in the halls, harassing people as they try to enter their rooms.
Posted by ruzil
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
16905 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 11:27 am to
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And what's to force them to stay in their rooms? They'd be hanging out in the halls, harassing people as they try to enter their rooms.



Sounds like Mims Hall at Southeastern in the '80's.
Posted by Bayou Brat
Member since Jul 2021
1023 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 11:33 am to
They did this in San Francisco during the covid lockdown. Many hotels in the tourist areas were sitting empty and the SF mayor forced them to house the homeless. They were paid at below market rates.

Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49216 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 11:41 am to
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This is already being done in south Texas and no vote was necessary. The federal government has been paying for large blocs of hotel rooms at above-market rates to house illegal immigrants.


So they were not FORCED. They are being paid more than their normal rate and are willingly taking it.

Not the same thing.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51598 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 11:45 am to
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Los Angeles voters will cast their ballot on a proposal that could force hotels to house the homeless, a policy that has many hotel owners concerned about how it will impact public safety



Translation: Los Angeles voters will cast their ballots on a proposal that could crush tourism and visitation.

The question I have on this is "do enough voters understand the full impact of voting for this?"

I wouldn't be shocked to find that most voters do not fully comprehend the economic destruction and calamity voting for this will bring.

On the plus side, it seems California is hell-bent on becoming the "Homeless Addict Capitol of the Country" (maybe the world, eventually). If so, let them. We can start arresting panhandlers then bus them to California like Texas is doing with illegals by sending them to NYC and DC.

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111519 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 11:52 am to
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proposal that could force hotels to house the homeless


What percentage of people are homeless because they want to be homeless?

What percentage of California’s homeless have moved to California because of benefits given to them by the state?

How will this proposal solve these confounding issues?
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51598 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 11:53 am to
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This is already being done in south Texas and no vote was necessary. The federal government has been paying for large blocs of hotel rooms at above-market rates to house illegal immigrants. Seasonal workers who rely on those affordable rooms have no place to stay. The locals hate it. The people who depend on the affordable temporary housing hate it. The hotel owners love it because they are making a killing and the illegals are usually processed and moved before they can do too much damage. The owners aren’t in a hurry to keep the rooms in great condition anyway.


That's completely different. In the Texas scenario, that's a choice by the hotel owners. What's up for a vote in Los Angeles is forcing owners to do this.

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If the measure is approved by voters, the city's Housing Department would pay hotels a fair market rate to lodge each person after identifying hotels with vacant rooms. It would require hotels to report the number of vacant rooms to the city and prohibit them from refusing lodging to unhoused people seeking housing through the program.


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This would, by default, make every hotel in Los Angeles into a flophouse for addicts. As more non-addicts and/or non-homeless stop going to hotels in the Los Angeles city limits, the city will incur more costs while gaining less tax monies from these properties (if they're having to pay taxes on the subsidies they get from the city for housing homeless, at best it means the city is still losing at least a little money due to the overhead of having to manage this system with less outside money coming in to make up the difference).

This is a policy which will create a death spiral for the hotel industry in Los Angeles, right up to the point where the property owners mass together to get it repealed (if it's not too late by that time).
Posted by CajunTiger92
Member since Dec 2007
2821 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 11:54 am to
The left continues to push policies that reduce supply. They are doing it in all areas of the economy, energy, housing, food.

Business owners are increasingly making decisions resulting on how government policies impact their business rather than meeting a free market demand. These distortions often lead to supply shortages and thus higher prices (I.e., inflation).
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