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re: Los Angeles voters to decide if hotel owners can be forced to house the homeless
Posted on 8/7/22 at 12:00 pm to 1BIGTigerFan
Posted on 8/7/22 at 12:00 pm to 1BIGTigerFan
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I think the city will pay them market rate, but the owners don't want it because the homeless will trash their place.
Ask Canada about this, they forced this on hotel owners, even nice hotels, and the middle eastern/african immigrants have absolutely trashed them.
if you try to give a review on hotel, Canadian government deletes and gives you a visit.
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Posted on 8/7/22 at 12:07 pm to thebigmuffaletta
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on a proposal
Every person who proposes that must be required to move their entire family domicile into one of the impacted facilities - and spend at least 45 weeks a year in actual residence. Facility to be drawn at random.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 12:08 pm to Bard
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On the plus side, it seems California is hell-bent on becoming the "Homeless Addict Capitol of the Country" (maybe the world, eventually). If so, let them. We can start arresting panhandlers then bus them to California like Texas is doing with illegals by sending them to NYC and DC.
That's how CA get all that federal money to keep the state afloat. There are billions of dollars sitting unused that were allocated for drug rehabilitation and homeless issues. Pelosi & Co. figured out how to tap into it. It's become another scheme to launder the money into politicians pockets.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 12:12 pm to tarzana
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LA is SoCal, sir
No its not
Posted on 8/7/22 at 12:13 pm to thebigmuffaletta
I ask again. Is this for the City of Los Angeles or Los Angeles County as a whole? The article doesn't specify.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 12:16 pm to 1BIGTigerFan
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I think the city will pay them market rate, but the owners don't want it because the homeless will trash their place.
Yep. Look what Katrina evacuees did to hotels in BR. One BR hotel got paid $400K by FEMA to house these people who did $650K worth of damage that FEMA refused to cover. It's now an OYO franchise.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 12:19 pm to thebigmuffaletta
Hotel I frequented while in my Charlotte office was taken off the list when I met a homeless guy getting off elevator and found out a local church/charity would put up homeless there. This was a typical Wyndham hotel.
I can both feel for people and not want to a: sleep in the same bed b: have my family in the same building.
I can both feel for people and not want to a: sleep in the same bed b: have my family in the same building.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 12:20 pm to Bayou Brat
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They did this in San Francisco during the covid lockdown. Many hotels in the tourist areas were sitting empty and the SF mayor forced them to house the homeless. They were paid at below market rates.
Just the opposite of what they did in NYC during a housing crunch. Top dollar to hotels on the government dole or your money.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 12:32 pm to Bayou Brat
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That's how CA get all that federal money to keep the state afloat. There are billions of dollars sitting unused that were allocated for drug rehabilitation and homeless issues. Pelosi & Co. figured out how to tap into it. It's become another scheme to launder the money into politicians pockets.
That's a solid point. Many people will use the per-resident stat to say California gets some of the lowest federal funding of all the states.
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The ten states with the lowest net federal funding per resident are:
1. New Jersey (-$2,368)
2. Massachusetts (-$2,343)
3. New York (-$1,792)
4. North Dakota (-$720)
5. Illinois (-$364)
6. New Hampshire (-$234)
7. Washington (-$184)
8. Nebraska (-$164)
9. Colorado (-$95)
19. California ($12)
It's a different story when you look at the raw funding totals.
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The ten states with the highest total federal funding are:
1. California ($43.61 billion)
2. Texas ($26.90 billion)
3. Florida ($23.77 billion)
4. New York ($22.06 billion)
5. Virginia ($17.68 billion)
6. Pennsylvania ($15.58 billion)
7. Illinois ($13.18 billion)
8. Ohio ($12.57 billion)
9. North Carolina ($11.31 billion)
10. Michigan ($10.84 billion)
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If this bill passes, don't expect for a minute that Los Angeles will not attempt to make up the loss of tax revenue from its tourism and leisure industry (due to this bill) by begging the State and/or federal government to make up for what will be a growing shortfall.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 12:37 pm to tarzana
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If it's on a ballot referendum, muh yea! That's the very essence of democracy, distilled!
Now do California Proposition 8, Same-Sex Marriage Ban Initiative (2008).
Posted on 8/7/22 at 12:40 pm to thebigmuffaletta
This idea has been tried and failed in several major (i.e. Dem) cities. In some cases the hotels were complete tear downs after 9-12 months.
In one case that I’m very familiar with the hotel became a drug dealer haven, and had several murders and multiple robberies of passerby’s. A major corporation had executive level employees staying in an adjacent hotel and these people were some of the victims. PCness kept that corp from moving their people so Uber in and out became the only semi-safe option. After a year the homeless had wrecked the hotel to the point is wasn’t even habitable (at the lowest standard imaginable). It was emptied and remodeled, and reopened by a much lower level hotel chain.
Homeless people are almost exclusively drug addicts or mentally ill, predominately both. They are not capable of caring for themselves even if given lodging. The only way a hotel takeover could work is if it’s run like a prison, with discipline and routine enforced. Of course this is much more costly and DemComs can’t graft off of that..
DemComs don’t actually care about the homeless, they just want to score media points by giving the APPEARANCE of caring. IMHO the only way to treat homelessness is in a prison-like setting where they can be forced to get treatment for addiction and mental illness.
In one case that I’m very familiar with the hotel became a drug dealer haven, and had several murders and multiple robberies of passerby’s. A major corporation had executive level employees staying in an adjacent hotel and these people were some of the victims. PCness kept that corp from moving their people so Uber in and out became the only semi-safe option. After a year the homeless had wrecked the hotel to the point is wasn’t even habitable (at the lowest standard imaginable). It was emptied and remodeled, and reopened by a much lower level hotel chain.
Homeless people are almost exclusively drug addicts or mentally ill, predominately both. They are not capable of caring for themselves even if given lodging. The only way a hotel takeover could work is if it’s run like a prison, with discipline and routine enforced. Of course this is much more costly and DemComs can’t graft off of that..
DemComs don’t actually care about the homeless, they just want to score media points by giving the APPEARANCE of caring. IMHO the only way to treat homelessness is in a prison-like setting where they can be forced to get treatment for addiction and mental illness.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 12:41 pm to thebigmuffaletta
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Los Angeles voters to decide if hotels will all shut down
FIFY
ETA: The only reason stuff like this flies is because we've lied to people for generations by pretending property taxes and zoning ordinances are acceptable. We have raised people to believe that you shouldn't have any control over your own property.
This post was edited on 8/7/22 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 8/7/22 at 12:41 pm to the808bass
quote:About 99% for about 50 years now. It began with young, dumb, middle-class to upper-middle-class hippies moving out there to do everything they couldn't do back home. Instead of playing "house", they played "homeless hippies." Don't you just know Western Union made a killing back then with parents sending money to their bratty-arse kids playing "homeless?" As a result, the real thing followed the pretenders; it always does.
What percentage of California’s homeless have moved to California because of benefits given to them by the state?
This post was edited on 8/7/22 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 8/7/22 at 12:43 pm to thebigmuffaletta
Who pays to rebuild these hotels after the homeless thoroughly trash them?
Posted on 8/7/22 at 12:57 pm to Chief One Word
My god what an asinine idea. It would require hotel owners to report empty rooms every single afternoon and the city would then what, walk around and hand out vouchers?
Then what happens the next day if they have a paying customer for that room? Good luck dealing with the squatters since I’m sure these bums wont be packed up and out by checkout time.
Then what happens the next day if they have a paying customer for that room? Good luck dealing with the squatters since I’m sure these bums wont be packed up and out by checkout time.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 1:00 pm to jrodLSUke
Can't wait for some conservative group to ship some homeless to the Beverly Hills Hotel and they forced to accept them.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 2:20 pm to VolcanicTiger
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Time to buy stock in Airbnb
I’m home surprised they haven’t tried to make that illegal
Posted on 8/7/22 at 2:25 pm to thebigmuffaletta
I’d think this would fall right in the same category as being unconstitutional to house troops in peoples homes without their consent. Any govt, state, local or federal who attempts to house anyone in private property without the consent of the property owner would be in violation of the constitution
Posted on 8/7/22 at 2:39 pm to thebigmuffaletta
I'd love to see a marketing pitch for this.
L.A.: Walk the city streets during the day, have the streets of the city sleeping at your door by night.
L.A.: Walk the city streets during the day, have the streets of the city sleeping at your door by night.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 2:49 pm to thebigmuffaletta
Please let this pass.
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