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re: Liz Cheney and Ron spout the same talking points on Jan 6th
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:45 pm to BBONDS25
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:45 pm to BBONDS25
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Well then that just supports the fact trump was proactive in promoting peaceful protest.
Did i state other wise? I watched the entire thing happen as it unfolded and remember hearing Trump saying, "Protest Peacefully"
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But I thought that the initial breach occurred during Trumps speech.
I didn't state that.
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Are you alleging that trump did something wrong on Jan 6?
I am not. Nor did DeSantis. Just acknowledging, like others, that maybe he should have come out earlier than when he did. If Jon Ham's timeline is correct, Trump's next comments didn't come until after Ashli Babbit was murdered.
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Do you think he should be prosecuted?
frick off with this simplistic Jjdoc, crayon eating shite. Of course not.
Here's the problem, BBOND25, you are so desperate to put me in a little box because i support DeSantis and if i support DeSantis then i must be a NeverTrumper. I've told you silly fricks from the beginning i prefer DeSantis over Trump and have stated many policy reasons why. But you simple bastards are incapable of thinking past your nose.
Maybe that's why you can't comprehend the rest of DeSantis speech and the possibility that just because DeSantis is running against Trump, doesnt' mean he thinks Trump is guilty of what the left accuses him of.
Be a smarter human. You are operating on Jjdoc wavelenghts lately.
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Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:46 pm to Jon Ham
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could never anticipate or do anything about his supporters rioting at the capitol.
Did you forget he offered national guard to be at the capital that day and Nancy refused? Why wouldn’t you mention that. What you posted is a flat out lie.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:46 pm to Jjdoc
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Jjdoc
AGain, what is this timeline you are accusing me of?
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:47 pm to BBONDS25
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Got it. So you’re saying that Ron DeSantis’ position is that Trump did something wrong on January 6th is that correct?
Ron can speak for himself.
My position is that Jan 6 was Trump’s masterpiece in being an undisciplined selfish loser, but I wouldn’t think he has criminal liability.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:47 pm to BBONDS25
It was a joke, Barry. Calm yourself.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:47 pm to Jjdoc
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the same talking points on Jan 6th
It’s called “The truth”.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:48 pm to 14&Counting
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My issue with it its that it was a massive unforced error by Trump that was going to lead to an enormous amount of blowback to him and a huge setback to the America First Movement. If you can't see that, I can't help you.
So we support jailing politicians for unforced errors?
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:48 pm to BugAC
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I am not. Nor did DeSantis. Just acknowledging,
He blamed Trump for not doing anything and that is a horrible easy to prove lie.
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like others, that maybe he should have come out earlier than when he did.
Stated it prior to Jan 6th, the day of, during his speech (early as you stated) and then after the DOJ plants started all of this.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:48 pm to BBONDS25
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Did you forget he offered national guard to be at the capital that day and Nancy refused? Why wouldn’t you mention that. What you posted is a flat out lie.
I take it back. You aren't acting LIKE jjdoc, you are jjdoc. Irrational women screaming at everyone.
1) You need to calm down
2) You need to stop vomiting on your keyboard, take a break, and think about what you are accusing him of and what he actually said.
Can you do that, or is word vomit the MO today?
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:48 pm to Dex Morgan
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Oh please. If they announced Trump would face the firing squad you'd sell a kidney and both testicles for a chance to pull the trigger.
Here's your chance...
Find one instance of me ever supporting Trump being prosecuted.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:48 pm to Jjdoc
JJ I can't wait to see OMB in his cell
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:49 pm to BBONDS25
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Did you forget he offered national guard to be at the capital that day and Nancy refused? Why wouldn’t you mention that. What you posted is a flat out lie.
And DeSantis KNOWS all of that too... yet he went with the Jan 6th notes on it
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:49 pm to Adam Banks
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He should have never called for anyone to go to DC on Jan 6 and should have never riled them up.
He didn’t believe what he was saying but his followers will buy anything he says
Even if he did believe it that was the biggest set up of all time and he had them walk right into it
This too. He instigated it by telling them to go there and I'm sure had a hand in or at the very least knowledge of the organizing getting that many people to DC. And why on Jan 6, I wonder if anything special was happening that day...
I don't think he's guilty of a crime, but I do think he's guilty of piss poor judgement and riling people up who then went on to commit a crime. Just because he tweeted after the fact that they need to calm down and go home doesn't erase his culpability in bringing them there and riling them up in the first place.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:49 pm to BugAC
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Apparently, and by Jjdoc's definition and interpretation, Don Trump Jr. was also spouting the same talking points as Liz Cheney.
Trump Jr tweet was one of Cheney’s exhibits. Y’all are so mad Ron is being accused of using Cheney’s taking points and then literally trot out her talking points.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:49 pm to BugAC
Here’s their problem.
Trump can never be responsible for anything. He can’t be expected to act like an adult. He can’t be trusted to oversee his appointments. nothing.
So you having the expectation of simply doing anything is too much.
Trump can never be responsible for anything. He can’t be expected to act like an adult. He can’t be trusted to oversee his appointments. nothing.
So you having the expectation of simply doing anything is too much.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:50 pm to Jjdoc
What a dishonest post.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:51 pm to Jjdoc
You’re such a fig.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:51 pm to BBONDS25
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Contrary to DeSantis’s claims, Trump issued a video statement on Twitter during the disorder, urging protesters: “[Y]ou have to go home now. We have to have peace. We have to have law and order. We have to respect our great people in law and order.”
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That should have been done as soon as people were seen charging the building. When was it actually done? Minutes or hours after breach?
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I believe it was 12 minutes.
The video was not uploaded 12 minutes after the riot started.
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2:12 p.m.: The first rioter enters the Capitol through the broken window in the Senate wing of the building, opening a door for others.
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4:17 p.m.: Trump uploads an unscripted video to his Twitter denouncing the riot
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:52 pm to BBONDS25
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Trump Jr tweet was one of Cheney’s exhibits. Y’all are so mad Ron is being accused of using Cheney’s taking points and then literally trot out her talking points.
Liz may be wrong about him being a criminal but she’s not wrong about expecting him to be an adult
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:53 pm to BugAC
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Here's the problem, BBOND25, you are so desperate to put me in a little box because i support DeSantis and if i support DeSantis then i must be a NeverTrumper.
Not at all. I was asking the questions in good faith. I wasn’t trying to put you in a box, I was trying to learn your position. I get the reaction, though. I really like DeSantis but get called a cultist daily because I prefer Trump. 2 days ago I got called a Trump cultist when I was disagreeing with Trump.
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Maybe that's why you can't comprehend the rest of DeSantis speech and the possibility that just because DeSantis is running against Trump, doesnt' mean he thinks Trump is guilty of what the left accuses him of.
I fully comprehend it and agree with him. The only part I objected to was the untrue part. I’m not sure why that is difficult to understand.
This post was edited on 7/18/23 at 1:54 pm
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