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re: Liz Cheney and Ron spout the same talking points on Jan 6th
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:26 pm to BBONDS25
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:26 pm to BBONDS25
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You failed to cite him telling the crowd AT HIS SPEECH to protest peacefully. You whine about JJ omitting pertinent facts, and here you are doing the exact same thing.
Things escalated after his speech. He sat on his hands for two hours after police said they were getting poles thrown at them and that it had turned into a riot. Only after one of his supporters got killed did he decide it was time to send another peace message.
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Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:26 pm to notsince98
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The bolded part is moving the goalposts. Is Ron blaming Trump for J6 or not?
Pretty clear he is not. He is saying that Trump should have spoken out sooner than he did, but he didn't blame him for what was happening on J6.
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That was the point of the OP. The bolded part is completely irrelevant to the point.
No it's not. Because if DeSantis was blaming Trump for J6, then why would he continue on with the bold?
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This is first grade logic stuff here.
Do you think Trump Jr. blames Trump for J6?
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:27 pm to BBONDS25
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protest peacefully
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:27 pm to notsince98
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The bolded part is moving the goalposts. Is Ron blaming Trump for J6 or not? That was the point of the OP. The bolded part is completely irrelevant to the point.
This is first grade logic stuff here.
Correct.
All he had to say is the truth. Trump called for PEACEFUL protests and that he issued multiple releases telling people to be peaceful after THE DOJ'S PEOPLE started this.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:28 pm to BBONDS25
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You failed to cite him telling the crowd AT HIS SPEECH to protest peacefully. You whine about JJ omitting pertinent facts, and here you are doing the exact same thing.
Because he too is spouting JUST the Jan 6th BS committee.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:29 pm to Jon Ham
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Things escalated after his speech.
You are lying. He stated it DURING his speech.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:29 pm to Jjdoc
The best story Trump can tell about what happened on Jan 6 was that he was just a helpless negligent fool who could never anticipate or do anything about his supporters rioting at the capitol.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:30 pm to Jjdoc
Ron Cheney and Liz Desantis.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:30 pm to Jjdoc
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You are lying. He stated it DURING his speech.
I’m not denying that.
After his speech, when it escalated into a dangerous riot, he waited 2 hours before sending a message to back down.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:31 pm to Jjdoc
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DeSantis literally said that Trump didn't do anything criminal and that the entire process against him is wrong.
He literally spouted the same thing Liz Cheney did.
I suspect Rob will be walking back that statement. They are getting HAMMERED right now.
Cheney considers Trump a criminal, DeSantis does not. Cheney thinks Trump led an insurrection. DeSantis does not. The only thing they "agree" on is that Trump should have acted differently that day which is true. That's all the difference in the world.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:31 pm to Jon Ham
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The best story Trump can tell about what happened on Jan 6 was that he was just a helpless negligent fool who could never anticipate or do anything about his supporters rioting at the capitol.
And here it is again.
And people wonder why the every day conservative voter is done with the GOPE.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:32 pm to Jon Ham
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You are lying. He stated it DURING his speech.
I’m not denying that.
You 1000000% did!
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After his speech, when it escalated into a dangerous riot, he waited 2 hours before sending a message to back down.
NOPE.... Still spouting the exact same Jan 6th line.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:32 pm to BugAC
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Why are you omitting the bolded?
It is JDoc's MO. There was a post on SECrant about combine results over the past 10 years. He took a quote from a website and surgically edited/removed about 10 references from the middle of the quotes that explicitly showed the study was in regard to combine results from 20 years ago or something like that. He obviously didn't expect anyone to google his quotes. He knew exactly what he was doing. JDoc is dishonest as frick when it comes to quotes he uses.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:33 pm to Jjdoc
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You are lying. He stated it DURING his speech.
Reading comprehension
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Things escalated after his speech.
Also, was Don Trump Jr. also repeating the talking points of Liz Cheney?
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:35 pm to Jjdoc
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All he had to say is the truth. Trump called for PEACEFUL protests a
What he should have said is Trump was an idiot for ever setting foot out there and for ever asking anyone else to be there.
As usual trump goes free and the people pay.
Just like the funding for his campaign. He never pays a dime
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:35 pm to Jjdoc
Lying frick. You deserve to be banned for the constant bullshite you put on this board
Like completely cutting off a sentence so you could make it seem like he was saying something else.
You should be ashamed but of course you have no sense of shame.
Like completely cutting off a sentence so you could make it seem like he was saying something else.
You should be ashamed but of course you have no sense of shame.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:36 pm to Jjdoc
I’m done discussing anything with you. Basic reading comprehension is beyond your capabilities.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:37 pm to BBONDS25
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Please expand. Specifically, how is Trump criminally culpable for events on January 6th. Which law, specifically did he violate. I’d love to apply the facts to the elements.
I will let the Special Counsel attempt to do that
My issue with it its that it was a massive unforced error by Trump that was going to lead to an enormous amount of blowback to him and a huge setback to the America First Movement. If you can't see that, I can't help you.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:37 pm to Jon Ham
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As a normal adult with common sense and decency, frick yeah he should have at least tried to send the message out earlier and more emphatically to back down.
Yep
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:38 pm to Jon Ham
Apparently, and by Jjdoc's definition and interpretation, Don Trump Jr. was also spouting the same talking points as Liz Cheney.
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“He’s got to condemn this [shite] Asap. The Capitol Police tweet is not enough,” Donald Trump Jr. texted, one of a series of messages Meadows provided to the Jan. 6 select committee investigating the former president’s effort to overturn the election.
This post was edited on 7/18/23 at 1:39 pm
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