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re: Liz Cheney and Ron spout the same talking points on Jan 6th

Posted on 7/18/23 at 2:04 pm to
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31524 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 2:04 pm to
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Stated it prior to Jan 6th, the day of, during his speech (early as you stated) and then after the DOJ plants started all of this.



Trump brought them to DC good and pissed off for the rally (the powderkeg), then gave a speech saying things like we have to fight to save the country and we're going to the capital (the spark). Unless DJT is a DOJ plant you're missing the forest from the trees.

Was there secret DOJ plants directing the mob to do what they did as part of some deep state conspiracies to make sure Trump is out of office and republicans look bad? Probably not, but it's irrelevant anyways. Trump created the situation not your DOJ boogy man.
Posted by JoeHackett
Member since Aug 2016
5171 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 2:04 pm to
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Nope. The factually incorrect statement I quoted was when DeSantis said this:

“it was shown how he was in the White House and didn’t do anything”



Is tweeting really "doing something"?
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28046 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 2:06 pm to
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Is tweeting really "doing something"?




Loaded question right there.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
37740 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 2:06 pm to
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All he can do is offer national guard, which he did. And was rejected by the democrat mayors. Did you not know this?



Who was in charge of the national guard in the photo?

Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 2:07 pm to
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Wrong. He tweeted out.



It was 152 minutes from the time they pushed past police to the time when he told them to go home.

And maybe you missed this tweet inciting the crowd:

2:24 p.m.: Trump tweets that Pence "didn't have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our country and our Constitution."
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55612 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 2:07 pm to
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Is tweeting really "doing something"?


When you have 75 million followers.. yes
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59340 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 2:07 pm to
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don't remember the governor of Alabama asking Kennedy to send the guard to BAMA. Am I forgetting how that transpired?


Got it. That’s a new one. You guys think trump made a mistake not invoking the insurrection act. Wow. Hadn’t heard that pot shot before. Even the dems didn’t think of that one at the time.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59340 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 2:08 pm to
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inciting the crowd: 2:24 p.m.: Trump tweets that Pence "didn't have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our country and our Constitution."


If that’s the smoking gun call to violence, this case is dead in the water. There is no call to violence that statement.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57817 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 2:09 pm to
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I think it was shown how he was in the White House and didn’t do anything while, while things were going on. He should have come out more forcefully, of course, that.


It's clear you don't speak to humans on a daily basis. You see, when you speak, you form together multiple sentences to express an idea. Twitter speak isn't real life. Humans are not condensed to a certain amount of characters.

To prove that, in this case, DeSantis was speaking and he stated.

quote:

I think it was shown how he was in the White House and didn’t do anything while, while things were going on.


Taken by itself, it might look as bad as you are making it out to be. Clearly, he stating, Trump didn't do anything. Then we get into human speech patterns and...

quote:

He should have come out more forcefully.


More forcefully...more, meaning, in addition to. Well by God, he just contradicted himself. If, you take each sentence apart and alone. However, more forcefully implies there was an assertion of force, which negates part of the speech in the previous sentence which stated "didn't do anything". Well, how can he possibly make a statement then refute it in the same speech. Well, he's a human. And that's how we speak when not giving a rehearsed answer. Thankfully, there is more to his speech such as...

quote:

But to try to criminalize that, that’s a different issue entirely, and I think that we want to be in a situation where, you know, you don’t have one side just constantly trying to put the other side in jail. And that unfortunately is what we’re seeing now.”


Well what in the tarnations??? How could he think Trump "didn't do anything" yet in the same speech also state, we shouldn't be criminalizing any of this. I mean surely, if DeSantis believed Trump didn't do anything and agreed with Cheney, then he'd want him in jail, right? But he didn't. It's almost as if he wrapped up a point in more than one sentence and conveyed several messages.

Now, Jjdoc, do you feel stupid for making me have to explain how human speech works? I sure hope so. That is the point after all. To make you feel like a jackass when you get hysterical and purposefully leave out context. Maybe next time you'll learn???




Who am i kidding, of course you won't.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130119 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 2:09 pm to
Is it your position that the only thing the President could do at that time was tweet?

If it wasn’t the only thing, is it your position that it was a even top 3 best thing he could do?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 2:09 pm to
quote:

Is tweeting really "doing something"?


For these lemmings? Absolutely.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59340 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 2:09 pm to
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Is tweeting really "doing something"?


Yes. He had 75 million followers apparently hanging on his every word. According to Liz and Ron at least.

Unless you suggest he went out there to break it up himself. He already offered the national guard. Nancy turned it down. What is it that you would consider “doing something”.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
37740 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 2:09 pm to
quote:

You guys think trump made a mistake not invoking the insurrection act. Wow. Hadn’t heard that pot shot before. Even the dems didn’t think of that one at the time.



I mean a portion of Seattle literally seceded.


As always Trump never has responsibility for anything.


He was the weakest president in 50 years according to y’all
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87283 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 2:10 pm to
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2:24 p.m.: Trump tweets that Pence "didn't have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our country and our Constitution."


Portrait of a courageous President right here

What a joke of a man
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59340 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 2:10 pm to
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Is it your position that the only thing the President could do at that time was tweet?


Are DeSantis fans on board with calling what happened January 6th an insurrection now?
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57817 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 2:11 pm to
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the other stated it needs to stop.


Now you are lying about a text message that was shown, verbatim, of what was on it?
Posted by Jack Carter
Member since Sep 2018
12200 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 2:11 pm to
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I think it was shown how he was in the White House and didn’t do anything while, while things were going on.


Wow. DeSantis is done. What a piece of shite.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57817 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 2:12 pm to
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Are DeSantis fans on board with calling what happened January 6th an insurrection now?


Are you already forgetting everything i just told you?

Stop BEING JJDOC! You look much worse when you act like him.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59340 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 2:12 pm to
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I mean a portion of Seattle literally seceded.


Can you cite one person (political or journalist) from that time stating that trump should ignore the wishes of the local government and invoke the insurrection act?

Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 2:12 pm to
Hope Rob gets president so antifa can entertain him along with the dems. Then we will see how much gets done then blame him for everything
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