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re: LIVE Candace Owens vs Andrew Wilson Debate: Over whether Israel Killed Charlie Kirk
Posted on 8/14/26 at 6:22 pm to theunknownknight
Posted on 8/14/26 at 6:22 pm to theunknownknight
Candace cucks in shambles
Posted on 8/14/26 at 7:07 pm to nvasil1
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Andrew does appear more restrained than normal, but perhaps he was trying to be more respectful to Candace than the feminists and OF whores he humiliates
He really is usually very methodical and restrained. The problem is that he has all these 4-6 hour debates and most people aren’t going to watch all that. They’re just going to take in clips, which will mainly show the more fiery moments.
Posted on 8/14/26 at 8:02 pm to SuperSaint
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EK has become beyond criticism and some third rail?
She’s not.
But Candace focuses on criticizing girl stuff. Calling her by her maiden name. Insinuating she was a honeypot. Just dumb stuff.
Is she in over her head? Sure. Is she probably more of a figurehead than a real CEO? Probably.
But laughing at her. Mocking her faith. Calling her by her maiden name? Just dumb bitch stuff.
Posted on 8/14/26 at 8:05 pm to CDUBTX
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You’re all sheep. I really don’t give a shite either way bit to act like there are no questions with all of this is fricking retarded.
The "just asking questions" point is disingenuous. I don't know any rational person who believes there are no questions with all of this. Wilson himself said if Candace was simply making a reasonable doubt case, there wouldn't have been a debate.
The issue with Candace is that she makes grandiose insinuations or claims with flimsy evidence. I've said before that she presents some compelling circumstantial things, but she often connects dots between them with her own feelings, assumptions, or "dreams" to arrive at a conclusion.
For example, Wilson challenging her on the steakhouse receipt seemed kind of pedantic on its face, but it illustrated how she operates. She "broke the news" in January and said her source was "good enough" for her. When Andrew asked why you couldn't just verify a name from the credit card account, she said "stay tuned". I know journalism is dead, but that's some bullshite evidence.
Posted on 8/14/26 at 8:13 pm to CDUBTX
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You’re all sheep
Says the guy swallowed the hook on political grifting podcasters. Holy shite this country is cooked.
Posted on 8/14/26 at 8:18 pm to theunknownknight
I’m surprised Candace even showed. She’s absolutely loony these days and has no credibility. I’m no Andrew Wilson fan either, but i hope he shut her down.
Posted on 8/14/26 at 8:24 pm to the808bass
Candy said EK is unqualified to run TPUSA and she should stay home and raise her babies.
As she makes $300,000 to say all in the preliminary trial was hearsay.
As she makes $300,000 to say all in the preliminary trial was hearsay.
Posted on 8/14/26 at 8:24 pm to CDUBTX
Actually dumbass it was presented in the preliminary trial. They extracted the data from Tyler's phone. In that data was the messages sent. If someone spoofed or hacked the messages then they wouldn't have been on his phones extracted data. Thus proving he sent those messages from his phone.
Posted on 8/14/26 at 9:02 pm to nvasil1
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When Andrew asked why you couldn't just verify a name from the credit card account
The restaurant couldn’t either. They just store the last 4 of the account. So they turned their info over to the Feds back in January.
It was a news story. If it was exculpatory, his lawyers would’ve been shouting from the rooftops during the preliminary hearing.
Posted on 8/14/26 at 9:28 pm to CDUBTX
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This is how I know she is stupid. Police forescenics can tell the device those messages were sent from. So they could see not only they were sent from Tyler's phone but the location of his phone when he sent them.
No they can’t you fricking idiot. They can’t tell any of that.
You sure are angry for a dumbass that doesn't understand cell towers and geolocating in 2026.
The fact that you had the nerve to call someone else a "fricking idiot" is hilarious
This post was edited on 8/14/26 at 9:29 pm
Posted on 8/14/26 at 10:51 pm to RazorBroncs
Man, the youtube comment sections on every video about this debate is nothing of Candance fans.
This post was edited on 8/14/26 at 11:32 pm
Posted on 8/14/26 at 11:27 pm to theunknownknight
Mind-blowing to me how many of you trust the feds…same feds who recently enough told us Epstein committed suicide. Do you not realize how very deep the corruption is and has been for decades? The narrative they want is the narrative they will ALWAYS get. They will see to it by whatever means necessary. Right, Warren Commission? We do not get the truth. Ever. This fed narrative is as truthful as the clot shot was safe and effective.
Yall can go visit the museum on UVU campus one day. It will be very similar to the one at Dealey Plaza in Dallas. The pre-recorded audio on the tour can tell you all about the lone gunman Tyler Robinson. I’ll pass on hearing the bull$hit.
Yall can go visit the museum on UVU campus one day. It will be very similar to the one at Dealey Plaza in Dallas. The pre-recorded audio on the tour can tell you all about the lone gunman Tyler Robinson. I’ll pass on hearing the bull$hit.
This post was edited on 8/14/26 at 11:29 pm
Posted on 8/15/26 at 3:32 am to tigerlion
They recovered fragmented pieces from one .30 caliber jacketed soft point round from Charlie Kirks body.
They found Tyler Robinsons weapon near by with one shell casing from a .30 caliber jacketed soft point round still in it and several other .30 caliber jacketed soft point rounds.
They have a screw driver found on the roof of the building with his DNA on it.
They have video of him taking the shot, running and jumping down from the roof with the gun wrapped in a towel
They found the weapon wrapped in the same towel, also with his DNA on it. His fingerprints on his weapon.
They have confession texts sent from his phone. Witness testimony from his room mate and tranny boyfriend, his parents and a local sheriff's officer.
They have zero evidence from any of the other conspiracies. Sure I am for asking questions. Have we been lied to before? Yes, but not everything is a conspiracy. Not one of them has even one piece of evidence that makes me question this.
They found Tyler Robinsons weapon near by with one shell casing from a .30 caliber jacketed soft point round still in it and several other .30 caliber jacketed soft point rounds.
They have a screw driver found on the roof of the building with his DNA on it.
They have video of him taking the shot, running and jumping down from the roof with the gun wrapped in a towel
They found the weapon wrapped in the same towel, also with his DNA on it. His fingerprints on his weapon.
They have confession texts sent from his phone. Witness testimony from his room mate and tranny boyfriend, his parents and a local sheriff's officer.
They have zero evidence from any of the other conspiracies. Sure I am for asking questions. Have we been lied to before? Yes, but not everything is a conspiracy. Not one of them has even one piece of evidence that makes me question this.
Posted on 8/15/26 at 6:30 am to MikkUGA
The problem with arguing with these Candace fans is that they’re not operating based on reason. It’s totally a vibes argument based on a suspicion of the government.
That’s all they have.
So, while a debate is good and necessary. It really just serves to point out who doesn’t debate.
That’s all they have.
So, while a debate is good and necessary. It really just serves to point out who doesn’t debate.
Posted on 8/15/26 at 7:39 am to theunknownknight
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Andrew Wilson started destroying her after the second break
You mean the part where AW demanded CO to name all 7 charges against TR and AW couldn't even name the one he thought he knew correctly?
And by the way CO named all 7 exactly how they were listed in the charge documents.
Posted on 8/15/26 at 7:42 am to Zephyrius
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You mean the part where AW demanded CO to name all 7 charges against TR and AW couldn't even name the one he thought he knew correctly? And by the way CO named all 7 exactly how they were listed in the charge documents.
If that’s your win or more-so Candace win from this debate, you both need severe help.
Posted on 8/15/26 at 8:02 am to Zephyrius
Actually she got 2 wrong.
Posted on 8/15/26 at 8:06 am to RazorBroncs
You cannot geo locate a text message like you can a phone call. A phone can also be hacked and messages sent from it and deleted. The same could be true if Twiggs took his phone and sent those messages to himself immediately deleting them. They would still be on Robinsons phone. Robinson is supposed to be highly intelligent. He indicated that he did not want to get caught but decides to put in all Im writing both in text messages and a hand written note that was only partially destroyed by the way? It just all seems odd to say the least.
Posted on 8/15/26 at 8:08 am to DeBoar
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If that’s your win or more-so Candace win from this debate, you both need severe help. If that’s your win or more-so Candace win from this debate, you both need severe help.
What's your "win" for AW? The part where taking into account of the overwhelming evidence he says he was 75 to 85% sure TR shot CK? His grasp of facts of the case? His professing of proper debate skills? His belief of mental deficiencies of women?
Posted on 8/15/26 at 8:58 am to tigerlion
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Mind-blowing to me how many of you trust the feds
Why are you responding to me? I don't trust the feds at all, and neither does Andrew Wilson.
The problem is people are too stupid to understand what happened in that discussion. Wilson is a LOGICIAN. He stated - given what he has seen, he is more convinced by what the state has presented than any other evidence. He wasn't even 100% convinced, just 60–75% convinced and open to changing his mind. But, LOGICALLY speaking, no other theory has actual coherent evidence to change his mind. That's it.
Then he asks Candace to walk him through her propositional logic on how she reached her conclusions in her past show's clips.
For instance: Candace concluded Erika Kirk was complicit in Charlie's assassination: shown in a clip. He asked her for "positive" evidence to support that conclusion, i.e., a list of propositions backed by evidence. She responds with some waffling about how she didn't say Erika was complicit in his death, so Wilson asked, "What is she complicit in, then?," to which Candace never gave a coherent answer. He kept asking, but she couldn't respond.
Another example: in another clip, Candace claims with "full confidence" that Israel and France were involved in the assassination. Again, Wilson asked for logical propositions backed by actual evidence to support that conclusion. Candace said she didn't have any, other than a "source", she conceded she didn't have any ACTUAL evidence but that she didn't need any because she had a right to her opinion.
And THAT is the crux of whether a person is stupid or not. If you want to know if you're stupid, ask yourself: "Did Candace win because she proved she didn't have to validate her opinions, while Andrew had to prove his case?"
If that is your takeaway, then you missed the entire point of the debate, and you may be a retard.
One person was backtracking and claiming "opinions don't need to be proven," while the other person was a logician explaining that "you can't hide behind opinions, because opinions are just beliefs, which are based on conclusions and logical syllogisms. What's the logic and evidence you used to get there?"
I figured this was going to happen, though. Most of Candace's fans are emotionally driven, not logically driven, so Wilson was always going to talk past them.
This post was edited on 8/15/26 at 9:01 am
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