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re: LIVE Candace Owens vs Andrew Wilson Debate: Over whether Israel Killed Charlie Kirk
Posted on 8/15/26 at 9:00 am to theunknownknight
Posted on 8/15/26 at 9:00 am to theunknownknight
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I don't trust the feds at all, and neither does Andrew Wilson.
People acting like 2+2 doesn’t equal 4 because Covid.
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Posted on 8/15/26 at 9:01 am to theunknownknight
As someone who is unbiased…….. I have to say Candace drug him. He didn’t even know the charges brought against Robinson. She was prepared!
Posted on 8/15/26 at 9:04 am to MikkUGA
Being that they’ve lost credibility over decades, my default position is to not trust the Feds. I then combine that with bizarre circumstances in Charlie Kirk’s assassination.
It’s odd to me to have the crime scene power washed, 10 inches of soil dug up and paved over by the weekend.
It’s odd to me that we’ve never seen or heard Tyler or his family admit this.
It’s odd to me that the officer’s body cam went out upon his entering the rooftop.
It’s odd to me the wording choice in the supposed text exchange between Twiggs and Tyler
It’s odd to me that Twiggs was given Fed protection and his alibi was he “was sleeping all day.”
It’s odd to me that of all the fingerprints on the supposed weapon, Tyler’s were THE most degraded…even more degraded than those of Twiggs.
It’s odd to me the financial matters just prior to his assassination - turning down Israeli money in the Hamptons as well as Charlie’s recent audit request of Turning Point.
It’s odd to me we’ve never seen a 4K shot of the shot being fired or of the rifle assembly
It’s odd that there were shards of black glass on the floor in the SUV
It’s odd the SUV was cleaned, stripped and sold as quickly as the crime scene got a landscaping upgrade
It’s odd to me how certain things were not admitted as evidence - his shirt, his necklace
It’s odd to me Brian Harpole, Charlie’s head of security, said he (himself) cut off Charlie’s shirt IN the ER “to prep him for a defibrillator”
It’s odd to me why Blake Neff doesn’t remember where he went the day Charlie was killed. He knows he was in a separate car after they landed, but he doesn’t remember where they went.
Again, the narrative the Feds WANT is the narrative that we will be told and by ANY means necessary. They stop at nothing. It doesn’t matter to me in the slightest what your opinion of this case is. It only surprises me how trusting some of you are…more trusting and less skeptical. I question many things they’ve tried to sell.
Posted on 8/15/26 at 9:06 am to tigerlion
That’s all just a bunch of coincidences! They happen!
Posted on 8/15/26 at 9:06 am to SelaTiger
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As someone who is unbiased…….. I have to say Candace drug him. He didn’t even know the charges brought against Robinson. She was prepared!
Again, that was one clip showing she had more information on that particular thing. But she was caught multiple times being unaware of something or being fact checked.
To say she "drug" him just exposes you didn't mentally understand what was happening. Candace was trying to "score points" for Youtube Shorts. Wilson was trying to expose her lack of logic and accountability. The former is for the retards, the latter is for those who actually think.
This post was edited on 8/15/26 at 9:07 am
Posted on 8/15/26 at 9:17 am to MikkUGA
quote:This is simply not true. The only phone data that was presented at the preliminary hearing was a picture of the text messages someone took of a phone. There was no extracted data admitted due to the FBI not allowing the defense to analyze their own clients phone. All of the evidence presented by the prosecution during this preliminary show was hear say and was allowed by a law that was created on 5/1/25 in Utah, making this evidence legal. I would be more cautious when using the word dumbass in future comments.
Actually dumbass it was presented in the preliminary trial. They extracted the data from Tyler's phone. In that data was the messages sent. If someone spoofed or hacked the messages then they wouldn't have been on his phones extracted data. Thus proving he sent those messages from his phone.
Posted on 8/15/26 at 9:26 am to tigerlion
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Being that they’ve lost credibility over decades, my default position is to not trust the Feds. I then combine that with bizarre circumstances in Charlie Kirk’s assassination.
Again, the narrative the Feds WANT is the narrative that we will be told and by ANY means necessary. They stop at nothing.
There are alot of odd things about this case that are open to questions. I don't trust the narrative, fully, at all.
I believe Erika Kirk was affiliated with intelligence based on her being in CIA training videos
I believe Robinson was influenced by "outside" sources via his discord history and the way intelligence influences people.
WITH THAT SAID:
That's a FAR LEAP from Erika was "complicit" in his death or that it was Israel and France with FULL CONFIDENCE.
Also, notice I said "based on" and was very specific with my beliefs. I could be wrong. I could be correct. I DON'T KNOW.
That is exactly Candace's position but she is either too stupid or dishonest to realize it. She really doesn't KNOW anything. She is just throwing questions out there and then, stating with FULL CONFIDENCE conclusions we don't have solid evidence for (at least yet)
That is what Wilson was calling her out on. He is not some fed-lover. If you've listened to him, he is pretty in line with most of this board in relation to the feds etc.
Not knowing while making conclusions while masking them as opinions that don't need to be proven is what Low IQ people do.
This post was edited on 8/15/26 at 9:33 am
Posted on 8/15/26 at 9:32 am to tigerclicks
This whole debate might be one of the dumbest debates about this crime in the history of really dumb debates about crimes.
Posted on 8/15/26 at 9:35 am to KiwiHead
what is strange to me is all the cleanup and non evidence collected and held by the FBI.
too many things similar to butler.
too many things similar to butler.
Posted on 8/15/26 at 9:57 am to SelaTiger
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She was prepared!
For what?
She has zero evidence of her theories.
Posted on 8/15/26 at 10:03 am to SelaTiger
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As someone who is unbiased…….. I have to say Candace drug him. He didn’t even know the charges brought against Robinson. She was prepared!
For the life of me, I do not understand how someone can say Candace “drug” AW with a straight face.
I really think the issue was the format. The first part dealt with only one issue - did Tyler Robison kill CK. All of Candace’s crazy conspiracies were off the table in the first segment as per the debate format agreement.
That bogged down the debate IMHO. And, honestly, the “controversy” w/ CO isn’t whether or not TR killed CK. The controversy is whether Erika Kirk, CIA, FBI, Orem Police Department. Utah Department of Public Safety, Itah Valley University administration, Egyptian govt, the Mossad, and now the French govt and now, the French Foreign Legion were complicit in a global conspiracy to assainate Charlie Kirk.
I mean seriously, if you believe such a bullshiite conspiracy, you really need to never utter a single thought to anyone else because you’re fricking stupid.
Posted on 8/15/26 at 10:04 am to Ten Bears
Sela is a complete moron that’s why he believes it.
Posted on 8/15/26 at 10:07 am to tigerlion
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It’s odd to me that we’ve never seen or heard Tyler or his family admit this.
That’s not odd at all.
Life isn’t a movie.
Posted on 8/15/26 at 10:07 am to theunknownknight
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Why are you responding to me?
You were the original poster, correct?
Posted on 8/15/26 at 10:15 am to tigerlion
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Being that they’ve lost credibility over decades, my default position is to not trust the Feds. I then combine that with bizarre circumstances in Charlie Kirk’s assassination.
I will also add:
It is odd to me that a bald dude was driving the supposed challenger at 11:30pm with 3 passengers and yet that video was clipped to avoid seeing that part when presented...hmmm
It is odd to me that the security cop only noted a partial plate number, the garage footage never identifies a plate number, and the lead investigator repeatedly says, "The vehicle in question is similar to the one TR drives." This is BS. What parking garage in America doesn't take a picture of your plate? Why not present that evidence?.. hmmm
It is odd to me that originally the screw driver was reported to be found with the gun and then the FBI reported it found on the roof a few days later...hmmm
It is odd to me that a discord confession was sent out after TR was in custody on Thursday afternoon. (This case will never go to court due to this completely destroying the feds case.)....hmmm
It is odd to that a back pack, jacket, and gloves that were found at a bus stop near the route that a supposed assassin would have taken were submitted for DNA evidence but tests were stopped on these items when the forensic expert was told these items belonged to CKs detail. ..hmmm
I could keep going with another couple of dozen anamolies and will if requested.
CDS is real.
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."
Posted on 8/15/26 at 10:24 am to tigerclicks
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It is odd to me that a bald dude was driving the supposed challenger at 11:30pm
The challenger?
Or a challenger?
Posted on 8/15/26 at 10:26 am to tigerclicks
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I could keep going with another couple of dozen anamolies and will if requested.
Here’s the problem that you dumb fricking idiots can never grasp.
Anomalies aren’t evidence.
“Oh it’s weird the grass was purple.”
“Yeah, but we have the guy who shot Charlie.”
“BUT THE GRASS WAS PURPLE, BRO!! MAKE IT MAKE SENSE.”
Posted on 8/15/26 at 10:29 am to tigerlion
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You were the original poster, correct?
I started the thread, obviously. But you responded directly to me with “I don't get why so many of you trusts the feds”
Why not respond directly to someone defending the feds? I'm not.
This post was edited on 8/15/26 at 10:30 am
Posted on 8/15/26 at 10:31 am to tigerclicks
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It's odd to me
“It’s odd to me” isn't a basis for conclusions. It's a basis for questions.
Candace is making conclusions. She was caught, called on it, and crawfished
Posted on 8/15/26 at 10:34 am to tigerclicks
Serious question. Did you watch any...or all of the prelim hearing? Or just copycat what Candace mommy sleuths said?
Where exactly do you get your theories you posted?
Where exactly do you get your theories you posted?
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