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re: Listening to SCOTUS Birthright argument: WE ARE FRICKED
Posted on 4/1/26 at 1:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 4/1/26 at 1:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
It wasn't made to hop a flight, go into labor here, and be qualified to recieve a lifetime of benefits for your family.
As far as this kind of anchor baby, just have woman sign a waiver and/or disallow travel here if expecting.
Thats a start
As far as this kind of anchor baby, just have woman sign a waiver and/or disallow travel here if expecting.
Thats a start
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Posted on 4/1/26 at 1:12 pm to Taxing Authority
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So if they stay here they are not subject to US laws? you sure you want that?
Why would they stay here? They should all be deported together
Posted on 4/1/26 at 1:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:I think so, yeah?
Was this what the 2nd amendment intended?
Posted on 4/1/26 at 1:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Yes Trump followed bad advice on this EO. That's the huge problem
Along with blue state gun laws. But I'm sure this opinion will be carefully worded as to not be such an easy precedent to apply to other amendments.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 1:15 pm to Ag Zwin
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I personally believe we need to align immigration law with the realities of the 21st century.
That being said, expect the same arguments for 2A.
One of those has a reasonable chance of being ratified, and the other has zero chance.
I'd be willing to take my chances on a convention discussing both the 14th and the 2nd amendments. I think I'd be pleased if/when the 14th got amended and the 2A didn't come close.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 1:17 pm to ChatGPT of LA
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It wasn't made to hop a flight,
Yes, an amendment written in 1868 did not anticipate flight.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 1:18 pm to CleverUserName
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But I'm sure this opinion will be carefully worded as to not be such an easy precedent to apply to other amendments.
You're correct
The references to the 2A focus on the rhetoric around the 2A and the hypocrisy unfolding.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 1:18 pm to bleedsgarnet
quote:Outside of the Americas, unconditional BRC is virtually nonexistent.
If you are born in any country in the world you are a natural citizen of said country
Posted on 4/1/26 at 1:20 pm to uggabugga
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What part of the constitution allows birthright citizenship?
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”all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States"
Posted on 4/1/26 at 1:21 pm to deltaland
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We will never see another constitutional amendment.
Not with that attitude we won't!!!
The current political division in our country make a constitutional amendment seem unlikely. But I have great faith in our nation being able to pull together when the time requires.
You never know what will happen in yhe future, but I find it harmed to believe this political stalemate will last forever.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 1:25 pm to NC_Tigah
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Outside of the Americas, unconditional BRC is virtually nonexistent.
Only 32 countries have it.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 1:27 pm to Covingtontiger77
I didn't expect this to pass because I just don't see how you can argue it. I don't like it but I don't know what you're going to do to fix it.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 1:27 pm to loogaroo
I have very little hope for the future of this nation if foreignors have the ability to dictate the country's demographics.
Our wealth is being suctioned by an invading army intent to do us harm.
Democrats and Foreigners really will be the death of us.
Our wealth is being suctioned by an invading army intent to do us harm.
Democrats and Foreigners really will be the death of us.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 1:28 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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this is bar for bar the exact argument the left uses to weaken 2A.
The purpose of the 2A was so that we the people were on an equal footing with the government/military if the need for another revolution arose.
"Shall not be infringed" is pretty straightforward.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 1:29 pm to TBoy
Notice I said you or the mother as long as one has citizenship it should confer, doesnt have to be the mother
Posted on 4/1/26 at 1:32 pm to DiamondDog
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I have very little hope for the future of this nation if foreignors have the ability to dictate the country's demographics.
I asked this question it the other thread:
Did we give up our right to choose who we allow to be citizens?
Surely that wasn't the intent?
Because that seems to be the way it is right now.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 1:37 pm to Covingtontiger77
The Progressive position is simple: we are on stolen land and don't belong here unless your parents don't speak English and you were born yesterday. Then the place was made just for you.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 1:37 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Is this what the 14th amendment intended?
Was this what the 2nd amendment intended?
You god damn right it was.If I have the funds to purchase it the Government shall not infringe on that right.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 1:58 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The references to the 2A focus on the rhetoric around the 2A and the hypocrisy unfolding.
The 2A comparison is certainly compelling at first glance.
Doesn’t it fall apart a little if you really think about intent?
Whether the framers only wanted a well-ordered militia or not, they certainly wanted to enshrine the right of the people to be armed. So you can pick around the edges of what arms can be owned, but you can’t go very far without clearly going against the intent.
Can we say that the writers of the 14th amendment wanted to give the children of the entire world, if their parents could manage to land here before their birth by hook or crook, US citizenship?
I don’t think you can say that, because I don’t think any such amendment would ever be ratified.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 2:00 pm to TBoy
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"The left?" The Constitution of the United States is "the Left?"
Times and things change.
The 21st amendment completely repealed the 18th amendment.
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