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re: likely hood of container ship sabotage has to be pretty high

Posted on 3/26/24 at 4:12 pm to
Posted by TigerVespamon
Member since Dec 2010
6087 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 4:12 pm to
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likely hood of container ship sabotage has to be pretty high
Likelihood of you being goofy has to be pretty high.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
5910 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 4:49 pm to
Well dude, it's obvious you have never, ever been involved in investigating complex industry mishaps. Information evaluation requires an open mind which you do not have.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46143 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 4:52 pm to
Lara Logan was just on War Room, she's not totally convinced there isn't some information being withheld, that bridge was a vital link to the city of Baltimore.
Posted by Rodo
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
798 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 5:04 pm to
The international shipping industry is very shady. The crew, except for the captain, is likely all poor barely trained Asians. The probability of a poor maintenance mishap is light years higher than sabotage.

Rodo
Posted by Tall Tiger
Dixie
Member since Sep 2007
3235 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 5:16 pm to
That is a hell of a theory.

Is there insurance on that bridge, and is it federal property? I know the Huey P Long bridge is state property and the state has to find insurance for it.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
17738 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 5:26 pm to
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Not all tragedies are conspiracies. shite does happen



True and based on what little info we have so, it seems reasonable to assume this was an accident.

Yet why is it so many people harbor suspicions that something is nefarious at work in disasters such as this?

You can thank the MSM and the U.S. Government itself for that.

Posted by Captain Poopie Pants
Pag Island
Member since Jun 2020
466 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 5:32 pm to
Yea, you’re so much better informed than Lara Logan. Go make yourself a sandwich.
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
2268 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 5:40 pm to
This was not an accident. Period. Full stop.
Posted by lsuguy84
CO
Member since Feb 2009
19661 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 5:42 pm to
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Full stop


Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
2268 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 5:49 pm to
Until you understand the safeguards that are in place to keep this from happening and the situation that took place I suggest you look at your meme and adhere to it. This was not an accident period.
Posted by lsuguy84
CO
Member since Feb 2009
19661 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 5:55 pm to
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Until you understand




quote:

Full stop


Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32798 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 5:57 pm to
[Patriots in control]
> no coincidences
Trust Wray
Trust Seasions
Posted by JayDub
Member since May 2023
132 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:15 pm to
I work at a port, I'm 63 and started at 17. I've seen ships lose their engines, rudder, radar, etc. shite happens, this MIGHT be some kind of attck but this happens more than one might think, not every day but it is not unheard of. I've seen ships smash into our dock due to mechanical malfunctions AND/OR human error.
At this point in time I think it is just a freak accident, had this happened several minutes earlier or even two minutes later the bridge would still be standing. What I can't understand is why the bridge piers were not not protected by bulwarks to keep a ship from hitting them because this is a VERY VERY busy port terminal complex.
There are now a half dozen ships trapped inside of this area NOT counting the MV Dali. Plus it appears from my Marine Traffic app there are 11 ships waiting or were waiting to get in there.
Posted by MemphisGuy
Member since Nov 2023
3222 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:20 pm to
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This was not an accident period.

Except that it was. Whether caused by mechanical or human error has yet to be seen. It wasn't sabotage, though.

Didn't know we had so many conspiracy nuts here.

Actually... I guess I did.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57272 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:22 pm to
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likely hood of container ship sabotage has to be pretty high
Yeah. In years of working offshore, I never saw anything on a vessel break. Ever. Totally reliable and well maintained.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57272 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:24 pm to
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Lara Logan lost a lot of credibility with that post.
No doubt.
Posted by CharlesUFarley
Daphne, AL
Member since Jan 2022
212 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:28 pm to
So all four generators (if so equipped) and presumably at least two diesel engines failed at the same time? These ships are built with redundancies to prevent that. Also, electrical failure could have been in the switch gear, but then all four? Plus the diesels are usually isolated from the electrical system, but things like bow thrusters are not.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49376 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:30 pm to
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So all four generators (if so equipped) and presumably at least two diesel engines failed at the same time? These ships are built with redundancies to prevent that.


ahem....
quote:

Dali is propelled by a single low-speed two-stroke crosshead diesel engine coupled to a fixed-pitch propeller. Her main engine, a license-manufactured 9-cylinder MAN-B&W 9S90ME-C9.2[9] unit manufactured by Hyundai Heavy Industries, is rated 41,480 kW (55,630 hp) at 82.5 rpm.[2] Her service speed is 22 knots (41 km/h; 25 mph).[4]
Posted by lsuguy84
CO
Member since Feb 2009
19661 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:31 pm to
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
2268 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:32 pm to
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Except that it was. Whether caused by mechanical or human error has yet to be seen. It wasn't sabotage, though. Didn't know we had so many conspiracy nuts here. Actually... I guess I did.


Well it’s settled then. You have declared it an accident and you have all of the evidence. Thank you for the quick and factual evidence and detailed report inspector. GTFO of here with your speculations. You nor I know for sure what happened.
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