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likely hood of container ship sabotage has to be pretty high
Posted on 3/26/24 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 3/26/24 at 2:01 pm
The container ship power failure will be forensically examined for years and may never identify exactly what happened. While there are lots of redundancies and data logging to prevent this failure,,,,,A low engine oil pressure switch is easily valved in and reopened with no record.
The 22 sailors in control of the ship will be examined, maybe not Russian style
The 22 sailors in control of the ship will be examined, maybe not Russian style
Posted on 3/26/24 at 2:12 pm to Trevaylin
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likely hood of container ship sabotage has to be pretty high
No it doesn't.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 2:14 pm to Trevaylin
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likely hood of container ship sabotage has to be pretty high
Nope
Posted on 3/26/24 at 2:15 pm to Trevaylin
dear lord not everything is a conspiracy or bigger issue. Sometimes accidents happen
Posted on 3/26/24 at 2:15 pm to Trevaylin
Good God you people are dense
Posted on 3/26/24 at 3:10 pm to slinger1317
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…you people are dense.
The likelihood of using likely hood to mean likelihood is a bit increased on this board.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 3:16 pm to beachdude
all right you guys are feeling the Ukrainian captain failed to maintain his vessel, and the 22 Indians were all holier than John Wayne.
Probability of that is equal to sabotage. Point is, the investigation will likely go nowhere
Probability of that is equal to sabotage. Point is, the investigation will likely go nowhere
Posted on 3/26/24 at 3:16 pm to Trevaylin
A computer hack could’ve done it, but why would they want the engines to die?
We did see 9/11, so who knows?
We did see 9/11, so who knows?
Posted on 3/26/24 at 3:16 pm to Trevaylin
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likely hood of container ship sabotage has to be pretty high
Why?
Not necessarily disagreeing, just wondering why you'd think that
Posted on 3/26/24 at 3:18 pm to Trevaylin
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Multiple intel sources: Baltimore bridge collapse was an “absolutely brilliant strategic attack” on US critical infrastructure - most likely cyber - & our intel agencies know it. In information warfare terms, they just divided the US along the Mason Dixon line exactly like the Civil War.
Second busiest strategic roadway in the nation for hazardous material now down for 4-5 years - which is how long they say it will take to recover. Bridge was built specifically to move hazardous material - fuel, diesel, propane gas, nitrogen, highly flammable materials, chemicals and oversized cargo that cannot fit in the tunnels - that supply chain now crippled.
Make no mistake: this was an extraordinary attack in terms of planning, timing & execution.
The two critical components on that bridge are the two load-bearing pylons on each end, closest to the shore. They are bigger, thicker and deeper than anything else. These are the anchor points and they knew that hitting either one one of them would be a fatal wound to the integrity of the bridge.
Half a mile of bridge went in the river - likely you will have to build a new one. Also caused so much damage to the structural integrity of the bottom concrete part that you cannot see & won’t know until they take the wreckage apart. Structural destruction likely absolute.
Attack perfectly targeted.
“They have figured out how to bring us down. As long as you stay away from the teeth of the US military, you can pick the US apart. We are arrogant and ignorant - lethal combination. Obama said they would fundamentally change America and they did. We are in a free-fall ride on a roller coaster right now - no brakes - just picking up speed.”
The footage shows the cargo ship never got in the approach lane in the channel. You have to be in the channel before you get into that turn. Location was precise/deliberate: chose a bend in the river where you have to slow down and commit yourself - once you are committed in that area there is not enough room to maneuver.
Should have had a harbor pilot to pilot the boat. You are not supposed to traverse any obstacles without the harbor pilot.
They chose a full moon so they would have maximum tidal shift - rise and fall. Brisk flow in that river on a normal day & have had a lot of rain recently so water was already moving along at a good pace.
Hit it with enough kinetic energy to knock the load-bearing pylon out from under the highway - which fatally weakens the span and then 50 percent of the bridge fell into the water.
All these factors when you look at it - this is how you teach people how to do this type of attack and there are so few people left in the system who know this. We have a Junior varsity team on the field.
Tremendous navigational obstruction. Huge logistical nightmare to clean this up. Number of dead is tragic but not the whole measure of the attack.
That kind-of bridge constantly under repair - always at night because there is so much traffic and they cannot obstruct that during the day. So concern is for repair guys who were on foot (out of their vehicles) working who may now be in the water - 48 degrees at most at this time of year.
When you choke off Baltimore you have cut the main north-south hazardous corridor (I95) in half. Now has to go around the city - or go somewhere else.
To move some of that cargo through the tunnel you may be able to get a permit but those are slow to get and require an escort system that is expensive and has to be done at night.
For every $100 dollars that goes into the city, $12 comes from shipping. Believe this will cripple the city of Baltimore at a time when they do not have the resources to recover.
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Posted on 3/26/24 at 3:19 pm to Trevaylin
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Probability of that is equal to sabotage.
No it's not.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 3:20 pm to Trevaylin
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likely hood of container ship sabotage has to be pretty high
Ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the Tigerdroppings poli-board.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 3:27 pm to Rodo
The ship apparently lost propulsion. Does a container ship have electric propulsion? I have seen both electric and engine driven propulsion on the ships I have been on, but those were Gulf service boats.
Also, those ships usually had four generators but could function on one. They were configured in a main tie main arrangement so that two were backups. That ship, assuming it is the same, lost both pairs of generators. That is unusual.
Also, those ships usually had four generators but could function on one. They were configured in a main tie main arrangement so that two were backups. That ship, assuming it is the same, lost both pairs of generators. That is unusual.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 3:27 pm to Trevaylin
Bunch of morons (or propagandists) rejecting even the possibility out of hand.
I’ll wait for a final report with facts before making my judgement…
I’ll wait for a final report with facts before making my judgement…
Posted on 3/26/24 at 3:29 pm to Trevaylin
Its gonna be Trumps fault, And it will be racist.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 3:33 pm to Knight of Old
The video of the crash sure does seem sketchy.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 3:33 pm to Padme
quote:
Multiple intel sources: Baltimore bridge collapse was an “absolutely brilliant strategic attack” on US critical infrastructure - most likely cyber - & our intel agencies know it. In information warfare terms, they just divided the US along the Mason Dixon line exactly like the Civil War. Second busiest strategic roadway in the nation for hazardous material now down for 4-5 years - which is how long they say it will take to recover. Bridge was built specifically to move hazardous material - fuel, diesel, propane gas, nitrogen, highly flammable materials, chemicals and oversized cargo that cannot fit in the tunnels - that supply chain now crippled. Make no mistake: this was an extraordinary attack in terms of planning, timing & execution. The two critical components on that bridge are the two load-bearing pylons on each end, closest to the shore. They are bigger, thicker and deeper than anything else. These are the anchor points and they knew that hitting either one one of them would be a fatal wound to the integrity of the bridge. Half a mile of bridge went in the river - likely you will have to build a new one. Also caused so much damage to the structural integrity of the bottom concrete part that you cannot see & won’t know until they take the wreckage apart. Structural destruction likely absolute. Attack perfectly targeted. “They have figured out how to bring us down. As long as you stay away from the teeth of the US military, you can pick the US apart. We are arrogant and ignorant - lethal combination. Obama said they would fundamentally change America and they did. We are in a free-fall ride on a roller coaster right now - no brakes - just picking up speed.” The footage shows the cargo ship never got in the approach lane in the channel. You have to be in the channel before you get into that turn. Location was precise/deliberate: chose a bend in the river where you have to slow down and commit yourself - once you are committed in that area there is not enough room to maneuver. Should have had a harbor pilot to pilot the boat. You are not supposed to traverse any obstacles without the harbor pilot. They chose a full moon so they would have maximum tidal shift - rise and fall. Brisk flow in that river on a normal day & have had a lot of rain recently so water was already moving along at a good pace. Hit it with enough kinetic energy to knock the load-bearing pylon out from under the highway - which fatally weakens the span and then 50 percent of the bridge fell into the water. All these factors when you look at it - this is how you teach people how to do this type of attack and there are so few people left in the system who know this. We have a Junior varsity team on the field. Tremendous navigational obstruction. Huge logistical nightmare to clean this up. Number of dead is tragic but not the whole measure of the attack. That kind-of bridge constantly under repair - always at night because there is so much traffic and they cannot obstruct that during the day. So concern is for repair guys who were on foot (out of their vehicles) working who may now be in the water - 48 degrees at most at this time of year. When you choke off Baltimore you have cut the main north-south hazardous corridor (I95) in half. Now has to go around the city - or go somewhere else. To move some of that cargo through the tunnel you may be able to get a permit but those are slow to get and require an escort system that is expensive and has to be done at night. For every $100 dollars that goes into the city, $12 comes from shipping. Believe this will cripple the city of Baltimore at a time when they do not have the resources to recover.
What the frick are uppers?
The author was high as giraffe pussy.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 3:34 pm to Padme
Lara Logan lost a lot of credibility with that post.
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