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re: Let’s talk about how America first actually hurts America

Posted on 11/18/25 at 5:44 pm to
Posted by SouthernHog
Arkansas
Member since Jul 2016
7313 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 5:44 pm to
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What a weak claim to make Israel Greeat Again.


This, I'm so damn sick and tired of the more I learn about them the worse as Americans we are. They absolutely hate us and will spit on you for worshipping Christ.
Posted by rileytiger
Surfing The Gulf of America
Member since Feb 2007
4398 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 5:44 pm to
Why don’t you donate your money. In the past we threw money to other countries and got nothing out of it. We’ll accept getting politicians rich.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
102643 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 5:44 pm to
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By helping others countries in a responsible manner we’re able to make America great. See: countries investing in America.


Funny, the ones who invest here aren’t the ones receiving our aid.
Posted by soonerinlOUisiana
South of I-10
Member since Aug 2012
2016 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 5:45 pm to
You’ve misstated the position. “America first” means putting America’s best interest first. If helping another country is in America’s best interest, then we should help that country. If not, then we shouldn’t.
Posted by JackieTreehorn
Member since Sep 2013
35576 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 5:45 pm to
If you want to give to other countries be my guest. Not me. frick them all.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
42265 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 5:45 pm to
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The confusion might be in the moniker ‘America first’ That implies we should only focus on ourselves

No it doesn't. It implies other countries should be second, not that we can't work with them.
Posted by SouthernHog
Arkansas
Member since Jul 2016
7313 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 5:45 pm to
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That implies we should only focus on ourselves


That's how it should be.
Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
17697 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 5:47 pm to
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The confusion might be in the moniker ‘America first’ That implies we should only focus on ourselves
no one that I know thinks this way
That’s not the spirit of America first in any case.
You’re taking this way too literally.
Are you 12?
Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
17411 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 5:48 pm to
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America first before everyone else is great in theory, but at what point should we help other countries.

Helping others is thinking of someone else’s needs. Others can’t be helped if you’re focused on yourself.



At what point should other countries help themselves? I'm going to take care of my own first and if someone else isn't going to make an attempt to improve themselves I sure as hell ain't
Posted by sabanisarustedspoke
Member since Jan 2007
5865 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 5:51 pm to
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The definition of America first as I’ve been told is to only care about America. That includes not allowing legal immigration, not sending funds to other countries, not helping other countries at all.

But by not helping others, we inadvertently hurt our interests.

That ability to help others has been abused in the past, hence the USAID cluster frick. Which I’m sure is part of why so many are against helping other countries. By helping others countries in a responsible manner we’re able to make America great. See: countries investing in America. We need good relations with those countries to facilitate those investments. Those other countries help make America great again.

The million dollar question is how much should we help other countries.



What planet do you live on? No one has a problem with legal immigration. You insincere TALKERS take a stance of not wanting 20 million undocumented, unqualified, unable to live without subsistence, people who are already let into our country by YOU as "inhumane" or wah wah wah wtf you cry about. You completely lie about reality and about intentions. You've done this one too many times and guess what, you'll win in deep blue cities but nowhere else ever again bc you are not honest people. The million dollar question is how much should we help other countries? Are you fricking serious? How about this, once my kid eats, your kid eats. You people are not serious people and you should beat your parents. I would if my kid had your delusions.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
19470 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 5:54 pm to
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That implies we should only focus on ourselves


No, it doesn’t. First implies there are others in line behind the first. Basic reading comprehension
Posted by Stealth Matrix
29°59'55.98"N 90°05'21.85"W
Member since Aug 2019
11683 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 5:56 pm to
Wow, great insight, wtf I love crumbling infrastructure and hellhole cities now.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
22907 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 6:01 pm to
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..... we shouldn’t allow any legal immigration.


Without assimilation, America is frigged. Lines must be drawn to insure assimilation. English is spoken and American flags are flying. The legal alien must not have any allegiance to another country whatsoever.

Assimilation is key!!
Posted by Westbank111
Armpit of America
Member since Sep 2013
4592 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 6:04 pm to
OP is ill-informed.

It’s the exact opposite as you say.

The point you decided to not make or your just LOW IQ?

But America First is emphasizing that we help others too much, and when helping them, 50-60% goes into pockets of politics or Oligarchs.
Maybe a higher %%??

“Over funding” other people and countries while we have major epidemics at home, let’s start with the homeless veteran issue? 22 Vets day killing themselves, why is that?

We are subsidizing the world, do you know what “subsidize” means?

Expenses abroad are more affordable than here in the USA, why is that?

And I don’t know many people that aren’t America First folks, and NONE OF THEM are against “Legal Immigration”, NONE of them!

In fact, I was at J6, so I’m as American 1st they come,

AND I just went thru a 15-month legal immigration process where I brought my Venezualan/Colombian woman here to Louisiana, literally just finished the process.

So GFY sideways,,,

You are distorting things like the fact of H1B immigration is a debatable topic that we don’t like, it’s not that we are 100% against it, but when 90% are all foreigners in certain sectors of the tech world, yes we have a problem with that.

You’re ingenuous at best & twisting it to prove an idiotic claim.

We are saying we want to take care of our country and our people before sending trillions abroad. That’s not a tall order.

We have been getting abused with NATO/UN/Climate Hoax/Wars/paying for Illegals to come here & take our jobs and they are receiving more Gov’t cheese than citizens on Gov’t assistance.

Post less OP, don’t show your ignorance

Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
36312 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 6:05 pm to
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The definition of America first as I’ve been told is to only care about America


Who told you that?
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
20073 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 6:10 pm to
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That includes not allowing legal immigration,


JFC

Nobody ever said that.
Posted by THRILLHO
Old Metairie near Cleary
Member since Apr 2006
50398 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 6:16 pm to
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I think we're good with legal immigration




Large percentages of the UK/Canada's immigrants are there legally, and it's been a shitshow.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
82306 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 6:29 pm to
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Why do you want a billion Indians




You know I said nothing of the sort.


Legal immigration means the best l, the brightest, and only those that are necessary.

It needs to be very tightly controlled.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
46425 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 6:39 pm to
I'm fine with aid to countries that support us.
Countries that hate us? frick 'em.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
42104 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 6:43 pm to
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Let’s talk about how America first actually hurts America

The neocons have co-opted MAGA. Mark Levin loves this post.
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