re: Let’s talk about how America first actually hurts America

“Globalism” is a code word for a set of ideas forced on us but we can’t really get into it without getting banned

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Do you make personal donations to various causes? If yes, do you donate to the point that you donate money that you do not have? Actually borrowing money to donate it? Of course not. That would be dumb. But that is what the federal government has done for decades.

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You're conflating trade imbalance with deficit spending.

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In order for countries to "invest in America and thus help those countries make America great again", America must first "invest" in those countries? That makes no sense at all.

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Are you ignorant of how states evolve economically?

There are lots of place where you can educate yourself on this. An easy "go to" example is Taiwan.

Without international trade, Taiwan would still be an agrarian shithole. Taiwan shows a pretty ideal path of economic evolution that leads to societal evolution and SOL increases. This is only possible with open/free trade internationally, because Taiwan didn't have money to invest in itself when poor.

This is why capitalism/free trade has helped so many billions of people over the past 30 years.



This is the speech I used ot have to give to lefties on here. It's crazy to me that I have to give this basic economic education to "conservatives" these days.

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2) No one has ever said a damned thing about legal immigration. It's the IL-legal immigration that we can't afford.

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Not true

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It's alos about fair trade for America and no longer allowing countries to charge us more and simply shrug and say OK.

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Wait, what?

Isn't the issue that they subsidize production to charge us less, hurting our domestic production?

And/or engage in irrational protection of their domestic markets which charge their own citizens (not us) higher prices?

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It's about taking care of American interests first.

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Well that's the debate, isn't it?

Lower prices help American interests, especially when the delta created by that savings allows Americans to invest in more advanced/profitable economic endeavors that raises our economic status and SOL.

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I suspect you are using "globalism" as more of a neocon pretext.

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It has no real modern meaning. Its a word MAGA attached to, but we are all "globalists."

After WWII America solidified its position as the most powerful nation on the planet, militarily, economically and culturally. Much of that power derives from our country’s relations and interactions with other nations. It’s not particularly hard to understand.
In cases of aid to populations in need
the benefit to the U.S. is obvious in most cases. Power abhors a vacuum. China, Russia and Iran will gladly fill that vacuum.
We can cooperate with, and provide assistance to, other countries and still take care of our domestic needs. It’s not a mutually exclusive choice…

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After WWII America solidified its position as the most powerful nation on the planet, militarily, economically and culturally. Much of that power derives from our country’s relations and interactions with other nations. It’s not particularly hard to understand.

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Somehow this globalism that lead to our rise is something bad for a wide swath of the right now.

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Lower prices help American interests,

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Yeah if a small town factory that employs 75% of the town it helped create goes under so some undocumented nons can get cheaper widgets, it’s always a good thing.

Let’s not even factor how many of them served in our military to afford the nons the freedom they are stealing.

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Are you antisemitic?

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The best man and another groomsman at my wedding were Jewish

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That is certainly framing.

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Non committal buzzword.