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re: Let's all come clean, why is Trump so despised and hated by some Americans?

Posted on 3/19/23 at 1:51 pm to
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 3/19/23 at 1:51 pm to
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His biggest administrative legacy is inflation and the second was the Covid authoritarianism.




You are an insufferable idiot. Take a closer, honest look. Especially when it comes to foreign policy (the one area the executive has most of the power in our republic system). Look at the normalization of relationships between Isreal and Muslim countries for an example of his effectiveness.

Look at how NATO was pulled into increasing their defense spending so it all didn't fall on the US taxpayer's shoulders. Look at his effectiveness leading the US military in our efforts to really disrupt terror networks. Look at the gains made in disrupting human trafficking. Those are just stream of thought examples of where Trump's presidency shined.

Go ahead and keep your head up your arse though.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466944 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 1:55 pm to
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You are criticizing him for his Covid decisions, while simultaneously pretending that Covid didn’t exist.

No I'm not.

I also posted about more things than just the 2 you quoted

Was the ACA repealed?

Was the wall built?

Posted by NCIS_76
Member since Jan 2021
5246 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 1:58 pm to
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why is Trump so despised and hated by some Americans


A good majority of men now are pussies.
Posted by nealnan8
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2016
3997 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 2:00 pm to
1. He has zero core beliefs that go beyond his own
self interest.
2. He has run the grandest game on conservatives, by
shifting from someone was pro abortion, pro Hillary,
ambiguously patriotic for most of his adult life, to
a new fond conservatism as soon as he realized he
could cash in on this.
3. Ha has no clear vision on how to implement any policy,
by getting consensus within his own party on how to
proceed. He makes speeches and tweets, that's it.
He is a terrible leader, and this shows by how many
people speak badly of him (even appointees!) after
they leave office.
Sad part is, he is better than any Democrat.

Posted by Ole Ag
Member since Oct 2018
2296 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 2:01 pm to
It doesn't matter why the majority of Americans hate Trump, it only matters that they do. He isn't a bad guy, he is actually the most likeable politician in years. Sadly, the 50+% that don't find him charming truly hate him.
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
12622 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 2:02 pm to
They don’t hate him half as much as they hate you…
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466944 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 2:02 pm to
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It doesn't matter why the majority of Americans hate Trump, it only matters that they do

This is a good summary for another thread tangentially related to this one.

We still live in a democracy and lots of people who vote hate Trump. It doesn't matter why he's unelectable if he is.

That's why you have to move on to someone who is electable
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38521 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 2:03 pm to
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Let's all come clean, why is Trump so despised and hated by some Americans?
It's very possible to dislike him personally and be a net fan of his policies. That mostly describes me.

But we don't need to act like it's mysterious. Let's be honest - you'll hate whoever the dem nominee/pres is, regardless of whatever intellectual layer we can put on it - and vice versa for the rep nominee/pres for the left.

The soft middle will react some to policy and some to personality.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154742 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 2:04 pm to
Name them. I may agree.
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
4684 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 2:05 pm to
Democrats hate him. In the Democratic World, Democrats can be as dirty and insufferable as humanly possible and that’s OK.

The Media has crafted this narrative that Republicans are not afforded the same opportunity. The Media is dishonest, and regularly against The Right, and that’s just supposed to be allowed. And people have accepted it. Until Trump.

I have no issue with Trump’s pushback. It’s been lacking for a very long time on the Right. Republicans before him just stayed in their given box and failed to lash out. That’s complete bullshite and Trump saw that too and called it out.

You take these so called soccer Moms who hate Trump for being nasty. These are the same Moms who will bite the head off of a barista for messing up their $7 dollar coffee.
Posted by CC
Galveztown
Member since Feb 2004
15150 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 2:11 pm to
I’m a conservative/libertarian who voted for Trump twice and could clearly see that the establishment was out to sabotage him from day one. He surrounded himself with anti-American losers and thought that his ego could bring them along. He seriously mishandled the pandemic and should’ve demanded Fauci resign around mid May 2020. If he’s re-elected, he has burned so many bridges that he will be alone and unable to get anything accomplished.

He is a big spender and increased the National debt. His pandemic giveaways were responsible for a lot of the inflation we have had the last 2 years. He needs to admit that the clot shot is worthless.

Trump is a populist, opportunist, bombastic self-promoting patriot.
Posted by Kingshakabooboo
Member since Nov 2012
1504 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 2:23 pm to
He is arrogant and narcissistic and doesn’t always think thru how what he says is gong to come off or be able to be manipulated. I do wish he had more of a Reagan way of speaking. Reagan was very concise and careful with how he worded things but could still throw off the gloves and show his tough side when he had too.

However, I totally disagree when people call him a liar. I think he is actually honest to a fault. He doesn’t lie, he calls it exactly as he sees it and that pisses the Elites off.

But none of this matters. What matters are the things he did as President to make this country better and how he ALWAYS is pushing the America first agenda. Yes he made some mistakes but overall was a great president and did way more good than harm. Results are all that matter.
Posted by tigerfan 64
in the LP
Member since Sep 2016
6150 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 2:31 pm to
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Was the ACA repealed?

Was the wall built?

Did DJT veto these bill's that were placed on his desk?
Why no, he did not.
The house accomplished neither of these goals, so dont blame DJT for failing to pass legislation.
Did the HOR and RDS's puppet master (Paul Ryan) draft any legislation to reach these goals?
They did not.
And they wont if RDS is the nominee and is elected president either.
The house did not support DJT's policy goals in any manner, even though the republicans all campaigned on repealing ACA.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53865 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 2:52 pm to
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No I'm not. I also posted about more things than just the 2 you quoted

Was the ACA repealed?

Was the wall built?


I believe McCain had the opportunity to do what he constantly campaigned on for years, he got the opportunity to kill ACA and like so many others his TDS kicked his puny arse and in turn kicked the American people's arse too.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53865 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 2:58 pm to
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They don’t hate him half as much as they hate you…


If true, I'll wear that as a badge of honor and I'll take it as a compliment.
Posted by DEG
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2009
10750 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 3:01 pm to
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You mean the inflation that Biden largely caused? Should we have let the economy collapse due to Covid?


You’re talking out of both sides of your mouth here, bub
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21871 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 3:25 pm to
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What horseshite.

You revisionist types may as well join BLM Or ANTIFA.

I noticed you didn't explain how what I posted was horseshite.

Was it the part where I said Trump's policies/ideas were good on paper?

Or the part where I suggested he didn't get much done about it?

I'll assume you're whining about the second part, and I ask that you simply consider the fact that 2019 saw more crossings than any Obama year, and more importantly - there have been 6 million illegals that have streamed across the border since Biden took office.

I don't see a lot of "success" on DT's part in those facts.
Posted by KLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
10995 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 3:31 pm to
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why is Trump so despised and hated by some


Because they are told to hate him even though they all loved him in the past.
Posted by Marcus Aurelius
LA
Member since Oct 2020
3900 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 3:34 pm to
Fair question... but you must have missed the November election in FL.

Trump is a moron who kept deficit spending on a path to US destruction. You can't call yourself conservative and support Trump. He is not Conservative and would continue the spending spree if elected ... regardless of what he says. If anybody has forgotten, search for this "never again" comment.
Posted by Tupelo
Member since Aug 2022
1737 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 3:53 pm to
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quote:
You mean the inflation that Biden largely caused? Should we have let the economy collapse due to Covid?



You’re talking out of both sides of your mouth here, bub


Nope. There's a difference in supporting stimulus when the economy is in danger of collapse (Trump administration) and trying to kill the oil industry (Biden administration).
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