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re: Let me get this straight, the main reason we are doing this is to bring more jobs to US?
Posted on 4/9/25 at 2:56 pm to El Segundo Guy
Posted on 4/9/25 at 2:56 pm to El Segundo Guy
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Uncouple ourselves from China. If China goes unchecked, they will kick our arse within 25 years without firing a bullet.
Exactly.
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Posted on 4/9/25 at 3:02 pm to RollTide4547
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Not at all. There are lots of people working jobs (food service for example) that they would gladly leave for a manufacturing job. My guess is that any manufacturing plant being built will be modernized with robots. Gonna need a lot of technicians to maintain those robots.
I'm in the ADC world and have spent my life in plants working on data collection projects. It's all about efficiencies with robotics and intelligence replacing people. You will need fewer people but they will need skills and will be pay accordingly. Farm tech is the same.
The tech out there is incredible but someone's got to keep the Spacely sprockets and Cogswell Cogs lubed.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 3:04 pm to RollTide4547
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Who said I don't? I didn't say that.
You said this:
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My stuff comes from the same place as everyone else's.
That typically means Asia, either China or Vietnam, not the US.
I don't get people who say they want to pay more for American goods but they can do that now and they don't,
Posted on 4/9/25 at 3:04 pm to SlowFlowPro
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So, you can't explain how personal responsibility and private actors engaging are leftism. Got it. You have to build a straw man and, even then, can't do it.
You created two separate quotes form one and left out the words that tied the two together to obfuscate the connection.
Besides calling people Nazi’s, is that another one of your go to moves to obfuscate? Is it effective?
Posted on 4/9/25 at 3:12 pm to geauxcoco
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Well, explain it to me then? Do you really understand? Give me a good answer here. Willing to have a very honest discussion about this. All of you guys here today want to quit your Cush job today and go work in a factory?
Having your enemies make everything for you leads to your downfall when all they have to do is cut off the spigot. We are seeing that play our right now in Russia. They do not rely on other countries as much as we do.
This is in part why they are building equipment faster than Ukr. can destroy it. This is why sanctions has not brought them to their knees.
IF we need more workers there are a shite ton of them south of the border that we can bring in to do it and this time they will be paying more taxes.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 3:41 pm to Flats
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attempted to shift the focus to the product being bought instead of the voluntary exchange.
It was as voluntary an exchange as a glutton grocery shopping.
quote:The window lickers are those TDS infested goofs who presume the issue and these negotiations are not multifactorial
window lickers who think you can analyze an exchange by looking at only one side of it.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 3:43 pm to omegaman66
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Having your enemies make everything for you leads to your downfall when all they have to do is cut off the spigot.
Truth. Put simply: You cannot hope to fight someone you can’t say “no” to.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 3:48 pm to geauxcoco
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Why do we need more jobs when we have the lowest unemployment rate in the world and just had an absolute stellar jobs report?
We are being lulled into a pig pen. Closer and closer to China finally slamming the gate, and then we realize what we willingly walked into.
A service economy is worth shite. That's what the US is. All is ok for now but the music was heading for a stop. And then we're screwed - at the mercy of industrial economies.
Trump sees this.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 3:51 pm to geauxcoco
quote:Perhaps you've heard of AI?
Why do we need more jobs when we have the lowest unemployment rate in the world
How do you think AI will impact our unemployment rate?
Perhaps you've heard of DOGE and suggestions re: Federal layoffs?
How do you think Federal layoffs will impact our unemployment rate?
Posted on 4/9/25 at 3:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
Then you’ll see an increase of shoplifting to unreal numbers
Posted on 4/9/25 at 4:05 pm to NC_Tigah
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The window lickers are those TDS infested goofs who presume the issue and these negotiations are not multifactorial
Who is doing that?
And I still think it’s moronic to only look at one side of the equation of an economic issue but since you threw up the whataboutism maybe you don’t.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 4:09 pm to Flats
quote:If American made is available, I try to purchase that. May be out of my price range and I have to go elsewhere. May not be available from the US and I go elsewhere. Recently purchased a Gibson Les Paul Standard electric guitar over a foreign copy. Also purchased a wallenstein logging winch for the 3pt hitch on my tractor from Canada, couldn't find American made..
That typically means Asia, either China or Vietnam, not the US.
I don't get people who say they want to pay more for American goods but they can do that now and they don't,
Posted on 4/9/25 at 4:24 pm to Flats
quote:You've yet to understand WTF is being discussed.
And I still think it’s moronic to only look at one side of the equation
One side of the equation is multifactorial, very complex, and critical to the US. It is not unifocal as simpleton window lickers prescribe. I don't give a rat's arse about Xi's "side of the equation." I couldn't care less about the effing EU's "side of the equation." Screw them!
Posted on 4/9/25 at 4:26 pm to RollTide4547
Unemployment numbers are BS. They don't account for those that have decided a welfare lifestyle works for them. You cant bring manufacturing back while continuing to basically pay people to breed.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 5:44 pm to NC_Tigah
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You've yet to understand WTF is being discussed.
I'm fully aware of what you want to discuss; you want to deflect from the drooling idiots who post here because they're on your "side".
It's a fact that people here (and probably elsewhere, hence the grocery store analogy) have tried to claim that a trade deficit is like losing money. If you haven't seen those claims, that's fine, but you sure are intent on trying to tell me I haven't seen those claims either, and there you're full of shite. Those claims have been made multiple times by multiple people. Those claims are moronic. Those claims are why people make the grocery store analogy, because the frickwits who believe them don't consider the goods they get in exchange for the "trade deficit".
If you'd like to explain why it's correct for people to think of deficits as losing money without taking into account the good or service provided in exchange for money, knock yourself out. I don't think you're stupid enough to believe that, but I know you're tribal enough to attempt to deflect from the idiots who do.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 5:46 pm to geauxcoco
Jesus Christ you're fricking dumb
Posted on 4/9/25 at 5:55 pm to Flats
quote:Address that claim in terms of lost tax revenue, if you would.
It's a fact that people here (and probably elsewhere, hence the grocery store analogy) have tried to claim that a trade deficit is like losing money.
Now then,
How does loss of money equate to the Feds losing money
Posted on 4/9/25 at 6:01 pm to NC_Tigah
When I buy dairy at the grocery store I purchase locally produced items which supports my people.
When I buy beef at the butcher the meat is local, not from overseas, supporting my neighbors.
The grocery store analogy is moronic.
When I buy beef at the butcher the meat is local, not from overseas, supporting my neighbors.
The grocery store analogy is moronic.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 6:07 pm to NC_Tigah
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Address that claim in terms of lost tax revenue,
Be happy to as soon as you address the claim as presented. If I buy $10k from Vietnam and they only buy $5k from me, have I lost $5k? Because that's some of the dumb shite I've seen here. That's what I first addressed in this topic, and that's when you started arguing.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 6:12 pm to geauxcoco
quote:I'm not reading 12 pages but you're an obvious troll. Run those unemployment numbers again when you don't have a cock in your mouth,
Why do we need more jobs when we have the lowest unemployment rate in the world and just had an absolute stellar jobs report? The government now wants our country to just work hard instead of smart? Help me understand. Those are very low paying jobs. The only people who will want those jobs he’s deporting left and right. Right now all that’s happening is money is going out of Americans pockets and going straight into the federal government.
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