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Posted on 4/9/25 at 12:27 pm to TrueTiger
quote:Yet the subsidies never stop. trump want to spend over $$1 Trillion on DoD this year. The answer is alway MOAR!
With ever-changing technology, it's impossible for the list to remain static.
When the army relied heavily on horses and mules we needed a robust horse and mule industry. Not so much anymore.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 12:28 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:It's a multifactorial equation.
You're trying to use it to justify subsidizing US industry
Posted on 4/9/25 at 12:57 pm to Flats
quote:Fine, the drug dealer and socialite have a relationship. He gives her cheap (subsidized) drugs in exchange for her contacts and associated politesse. Once she's addicted and he's already in w/ her contacts, the fix gets far more expensive and the associations far more carnal. But it was all "free will" .... until it wasn't.
You can use any voluntary exchange between two parties you like.
quote:I have no idea as to your wife, her choices, or her rationale for them.
Is my wife required to shop there or is it voluntary?
Posted on 4/9/25 at 1:10 pm to geauxcoco
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Let me get this straight, the main reason we are doing this is to bring more jobs to US?
No. Thats not even reason #2
Posted on 4/9/25 at 1:13 pm to NC_Tigah
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Fine, the drug dealer and socialite have a relationship.
That relationship is damaging regardless of the price charged. The exchange of goods isn't the problem, it's the product being purchased.
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I have no idea as to your wife, her choices, or her rationale for them.
Crawfish. You made a claim about a relationship that you now don't want to back up. When two people voluntarily exchange goods or services why is that not a partnership?
Posted on 4/9/25 at 1:34 pm to Flats
quote:Afraid? No. My stuff comes from the same place as everyone else's. I'm just fine with holding other countries accountable and paying more for American Made.
You afraid to tell us where your stuff comes from?
Posted on 4/9/25 at 1:35 pm to RollTide4547
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My stuff comes from the same place as everyone else's. I'm just fine with holding other countries accountable and paying more for American Made.
So why don't you pay more for for American Made right now?
Posted on 4/9/25 at 1:37 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Much like your desire to exploit child labor for your own personal financial benefit is noted.
Your concern is noted, AOC.
quote:Every accusation (educating your leftism) by a leftard is actually a confession.
No. I'm educating your leftism with facts and logic.
quote:I bet the southern slave owners said that slavery was better for the slaves in America than how they would have lived in their home country of Africa.
Sweatshops are good for poor nations. They give those nations an opportunity to advance from poverty and agrarian economies to industrial and developed economies.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 1:38 pm to Flats
quote:Who said I don't? I didn't say that.
So why don't you pay more for for American Made right now?
Posted on 4/9/25 at 1:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Personal responsibility and private actors. How is that leftism?
Because the mere fact of being unvaccinated did nothing to hospital workload. Yet you chose to post an emotional, non data supported stance against the unvaccinated to claim it did.
Emotion over facts. Thats leftism in a nutshell.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 1:48 pm to Flats
quote:Now you're getting it.
That relationship is damaging regardless of the price charged.
A cheap fix here,
A subsidized one there.
For a while Lady Liberty is on top of the world.
Cheap highs traded for American Pie, and an addict rarely understands the cost until far too much is tossed aside.
You say you never compromise
With the mystery tramp, but now you realize
He's not selling any alibis
As you stare into the vacuum of his eyes
And say, “Do you want to make a deal?"
How does it feel?
How does it feel?
Posted on 4/9/25 at 1:49 pm to SlayTime
quote:
Because the mere fact of being unvaccinated did nothing to hospital workload.
Even assuming this is correct, for the sake of argument, how is this leftism?
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Emotion over facts. Thats leftism in a nutshell.
So, you can't explain how personal responsibility and private actors engaging are leftism. Got it. You have to build a straw man and, even then, can't do it.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 1:50 pm to Flats
quote:Crawfish?? Would you prefer I fold your wife into the socialite example I laid out.
Crawfish. You made a claim about a relationship that you now don't want to back up.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 1:50 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
Now you're getting it.
You're attempting a bait & switch. Try again.
You didn't like the grocery store analogy and your argument was that trade is a "partnership" and that relationship doesn't exist between a customer and a store. That's a bullshite claim you can't support so you started talking about drug dealers.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 2:06 pm to Flats
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You can use any voluntary exchange between two parties you like.
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That's a bullshite claim you can't support so you started talking about drug dealers.
I thought you asked me to choose any voluntary exchange between two parties.
I chose an exchange between two individuals instead of an individual and a Publix Supermarket. The former falls under an equivalence more analogous to two nations doing a deal, the latter is more akin to Tim Cook working with China. Regardless, the grocery store analogy is stupid!
Posted on 4/9/25 at 2:35 pm to geauxcoco
quote:Simpleton.
geauxcoco
All these people who need everything explained because they cannot see the forest but for the trees..
WE have countries that have been screwing us with tariffs ford decades coming to bend the knee. Countries and companies pledging billions and opening up new factories in the US (jobs). Billions of waste and fraud being uncovered - your tax dollars. Woke idiots sky screaming.
And you need to get one thing strait. Your dad should have pulled out.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 2:42 pm to geauxcoco
Manufacturing jobs came back both under Trump and Biden.
The middle class was built by the manufacturing sector.
The middle class was built by the manufacturing sector.
This post was edited on 4/9/25 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 4/9/25 at 2:46 pm to geauxcoco
We just fired 10's of thousands of government employees and the private sector is trying to automate. Jobs lost to automation and AI will be low skilled/low paying.
A lot of the factory jobs in brand new factories will be automated. The jobs remaining will be higher skilled jobs.
I'm no expert, but I just watched us settle a longshoremen strike by promising to stop automation efforts. Maybe we should rethink that.
We have millions of people selling products in stores that we don't need. We have 2 coffee shops on every corner. The critical jobs - energy, manufacturing, food chain, etc, will take precedence and pay more than the dog psychiatrist.
If we need more people, we will give out work visas. We can't continue to be the welfare system for the world.
A lot of the factory jobs in brand new factories will be automated. The jobs remaining will be higher skilled jobs.
I'm no expert, but I just watched us settle a longshoremen strike by promising to stop automation efforts. Maybe we should rethink that.
We have millions of people selling products in stores that we don't need. We have 2 coffee shops on every corner. The critical jobs - energy, manufacturing, food chain, etc, will take precedence and pay more than the dog psychiatrist.
If we need more people, we will give out work visas. We can't continue to be the welfare system for the world.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 2:53 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
I thought you asked me to choose any voluntary exchange between two parties.
But you chose a drug dealer and attempted to shift the focus to the product being bought instead of the voluntary exchange. If a voluntary exchange between two countries is a partnership then a voluntary exchange between any other two entities is a partnership.
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Regardless, the grocery store analogy is stupid!
Nope, it brings the point home to the window lickers who think you can analyze an exchange by looking at only one side of it.
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